ex-l wrote:Will you download and look at the original documents placed in the Library and authored by the Om Mandli and Om Radhe?
What you believe ... especially as you insist on wearing blinkers to the truth ... is of no importance. The facts are there. It only goes to prove again that you do not know what you are talking about, BKs are not told the truth, and you are all promoting a falsified series of events. If the pictures were not perfect, why did Baba certify them as it is written in the BK history books?
You will see no mention of God Shiva, only God Brahma the Gita Inventor. Its not true to say BKs are current not having vision of heaven, I personally know that to be untrue. Likewise, America, their opposition, Destruction, the two cats etc ARE mentioned in the Murlis. I don't suppose your center-in-charge told you of how at times the women would scream and howl either?
Here is the evidence, click to enlarge. It is taken from the BK book about the Mahabharat War. See also, The Original Cycle
I read the BK book about Mahabharat War. It was really surprising to know the facts. But I had already mentioned in the forum that Baba used Bhaktmarg initially to give Gyan. Even though I was not aware of the facts, it makes no much difference due to the following Murli points.
samajh bhee har ek kee apnee2 hai. Nishchaybudhi bhee har ek kee apnee hai. Baap to samjhaate rahte hain aise hee samjho ki ShivBaba in dwaaraa direction dete hain. Tum aadhaa kalp asuri direction par chalte aaye ho. Ab aise nishchay karo ki hum ishwareey direction par chalte hain to bedaa paar ho saktaa hai. agar ishwareey direction na samajh manushy kaa direction samjhaa to moonjh padenge. baap kahte hain mere direction par chalne se phir main responsible hun na. IN DWAARAA JO KUCH HOTAA HAI, UNKEE ACTIVITY KAA MAIN HEE RESPONSIBLE HUN. USKO HUM RIGHT KARENGE. TUM SIRF DIRECTION PAR CHALO. jo achchee reeti Yaad karenge vahee direction par chal sakenge. kadam2 ishwareey direction samajh chalenge to kabhee ghaataa naheen hogaa. nishchay may hee vijay hai. bahut bachhe in baaton ko samajhte naheen hain.
Understanding of everyone is unique. Even the faith. Always consider that ShivBaba gives direction through this. You were on asuri direction for half Kalpa. Now develop the faith that we are on ishwariy direction, then the boat will be saved. If you consider as human direction, you will get confused. Father says if you follow my direction, then I am responsible, is it not. WHATEVER THAT HAPPENS THROUGH THIS, I AM RESPONSIBLE TO THOSE ACTIVITIES. YOU JUST FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS. Those who do good remembrance only will be able to follow the directions. If you consider the directions as ishwariy directions in EVERY STEP, there will never be loss. Victory is in FAITH. Many children do not understand this. (Sakar Murli 8-1-2000 Page 1)Hence I think I was not wrong while posting even I did not know some of the facts.
God himself (you may say Lekhraj or SS) speaks that there will be changes in the pictures certified by him!
chitron may bahut correction karte, badalte jaayenge. Jaise Baba sookshmvatan ke liye samjhaate hain, SAMSHAYBUDDHI to kahenge yeh kyaa! Aage yeh kahte the, abhee yeh kahte hain.
Lots of Corrections and Changes will happen in pictures. Like Baba says about Subtle Region, DOUBTFUL INTELLECTS will say WHAT IS THIS! Before they were saying this, and now they say this (different)- (SM 30-08-2000/Pg 3)Baba has said in Murli that ‘trance is waste of time. Visions are of no use’. But who is responsible for trance or visions? Baba himself! Baba does something and after sometime he says it is of no use. Initially Baba has said I am ling-like. Then he said, I am not so. I am a point.
This may be the reason why God might not have stressed about his introduction. Hence the process was very slow. [Since understanding capacity of the children in the beginning was less and teaching cannot be fast(due to Single teacher, just God. Now the learned BKs can teach others), more importance was given for dharna than knowledge. Later knowledge is explained in detail].
There are many Murli points which indicate that many children did not know that it is Shiva speaking through Brahma. They did not know about the incarnation. They used to think that Brahma Baba himself is everything.
So these old documents explain more clearly to me an Avyakt Murli point, “The present 5 years is equivalent to 50 years of before”.
In the beginning, children were getting enjoyment by visions. In the end also it would be (Murli point- “jaise aadi may bahlaayaa thaa vaise ant may bhee bahlaayenge). Children were forgetting the whole world and for considerable duration (even the trance). [Baba had said that when Destruction would be going on one side, you children would be enjoying by those visions]. The visions you mentioned are not for enjoyment. They are just an instrument in increasing faith.I have not heard Murli point saying that the two cats are Russia and America. It says Europevaasi yaadav. According to the history I know, the present Americans are actually from Europe. They attacked the people of origins (also called as red Indians) and took power. So, the cats may be the present America and Europe. It is very difficult to understand Murli points. [A simple example is about the word BapDada. This can be explained in many ways]. So what Baba speaks, how he speaks, in what context it is, nobody knows perfectly.
I was astonished by the spirit of Om Radhe even without knowing full knowledge. So I think even in the end, some of the BKs will have such a high spirit.
So, there was confusion in the beginning and so in the end (at least till today). There are two groups, BKs and PBKs!- Anyhow, I will go through the library first