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mitra

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Re: Murli PT. No. 36 - (KINGDOM OF WORLD)

Post22 Jan 2007

arjun wrote:Murli PT. No. 36 - (KINGDOM OF WORLD)

"Abhi jaantey ho Baba fir say aakar hamko vishwa kee baadshaahi detey hain. Koi kee buddhi may nahi aayega ki vishwa ki baadshahi kya hoti hai. Vishwa maana saari duniya." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 01.09.05, page 2)

"Now you know that Baba has come again and is giving us the kingship of the world. It will not strike the intellect of anyone else as to what is the kingship of the world (vishwa kee baadshaahi)? ‘Vishwa’ means entire world.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 01.09.05, page 2 published by BKs and narrated by Father Shiv through Brahma Baba)

- Baba is telling that He is giving us the kingship of the world and that ‘vishwa’ means the entire world. But the picture of Lakshmi-Narayan published by the BKs shows only the map of India. Then the Golden Aged Lakshmi-Narayan will be called only the Emperor of India and not the World Emperor. Are the souls, who get revealed as the mother and Father or Emperor & Empress of the entire world and all the souls of the world different (from the souls which become Lakshmi-Narayan in the Golden Age)?

Om Shanti,

During the Golden Age, life of deities exists only in India. All other places are picnic places, i.e. why they show only the picture of India. It is said that Mama will give birth to Krishna and they she leave her body and will take birth as Radhe - who will become Lakshmi after her marriage.

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Post22 Jan 2007

Mitra wrote:During the Golden Age, life of deities exists only in India. All other places are picnic places. ie why they show only the picture of India. It is said that Mama will give birth to Krishna and they she leave her body and will take birth as Radhe. -who will become Lakshmi after her marriage

Dear Mitra,
Omshanti and thanks for the response.

The Golden Age that BKs or PBKs perceive would have only the landmass of Indian subcontinent. Rest of the landmass is supposed to remain submerged with a few islands here and there for picnics.

But the 'entire world' that Baba is referring is not the world that would exist in the Golden Age because by that time most of the land mass would be already submerged under water and most of the human population would have returned to Paramdham. So, practically speaking the Golden Aged Lakshmi-Narayan would only be the Emperors of India. BKs also say that souls of other religions would not come to Golden Age.

But it is a fact that almost all the religions believe in heaven. Muslims call it bahisht, Christians call it heaven. They also believe in Adam and Eve. If the persons believed to be Adam and Eve by the BKs (i.e. Dada Lekhraj and Mama Saraswati) have departed long back in the 1960s when the heads of various religions had not yet received the Godly knowledge, then how did the other religions visualize Adam and Eve?

As regards Mama taking birth as Radha is concerned it is fine, but I am unable to understand the matter of Mama giving birth to Krishna. Has this been said by ShivBaba in any Murli?

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Post23 Jan 2007

I have seen it in one of the Avyakt Vani's but not able to recall the date. This was mentioned in the chit chat section after the main Murli

All the first souls in all the religion will visit mount abu and meet Shiv Baba and take the power of Purity, on the basis of which they will establish their own religion in their own time.

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Post25 Jan 2007

Mitra wrote:I have seen it in one of the Avyakt Vani's but not able to recall the date. This was mentioned in the chit chat section after the main Murli

Brother, are you talking about the above Avyakt Vani containing reference about Mama giving birth to Krishna? If yes, it would be nice if you could quote the point or at least intimate the date so that I could try to quote from my available records.

I am surprised how a soul could become the mother and wife of the same soul, i.e. Krishna?
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Post28 Jan 2007

arjun wrote:Brother, are you talking about the above Avyakt Vani containing reference about Mama giving birth to Krishna? If yes, it would be nice if you could quote the point or at least intimate the date so that I could try to quote from my available records. I am surprised how a soul could become the mother and wife of the same soul, i.e. Krishna?

I will try to find the date ... :D You can refer to Avyakt Vani of 18th Jan 1985 :). In the chit chat section you can get some point on advanced party souls.

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Post01 Feb 2007

Dear Mitra Bhai,

Omshanti. Thanks for finding the date. I will check up my records and let you know.
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Post04 Feb 2007

Mitra wrote:You can refer to Avyakt Vani of 18th Jan 1985. In the chit chat section you can get some point on advanced party souls.

Dear Brother,

Omshanti. I have read the entire Avyakt Vani dated 18th Jan, 1985. Although it contains many important points related to the Advance Party in the portion containing the words spoken by BapDada to Dadiji and Dadi Janaki, but there is nothing about Mama giving birth to Krishna etc. Can you please quote the lines if you have seen the same in that Avyakt Vani or any other? You can write the Hindi lines in Roman script if you cannot quote the English version.
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