Cats and Neolithic Genocide Pre-Dates BK Heaven on Earth

Scientific challenges to the beliefs promoted by the Brahma Kumaris so called "World Spiritual University"
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Cats and Neolithic Genocide Pre-Dates BK Heaven on Earth

Post26 Jun 2017

French archaeologists unearth bones from 6,000-year-old massacre involving “furious, ritualised warriors” approximately 1,000 years before the start of the Brahma Kumaris heavenly pacifist "Golden Age" on earth. The corpses of 10 individuals were found in one of 300 ancient silos, used to store grain and other food having suffered extremely violent deaths, with multiple injuries to their legs, hands and skulls. The way in which the bodies were piled on top of each other suggested they had been killed together and dumped in the silo.

Elsewhere, a different French student found a French student finds a human tooth dating back 560,000 years ago which is being hailed as a "major discovery" by paleoanthropologist overseeing dig at Arago cave near Tautavel.

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And, on a happier note, DNA scientists have calculated that domestic cats have living with human being for at least 9,000 years... again, 4,000 year longer than the Brahma Kumaris believe time exists for (5,000 years only).

Nature magazine, the Smithsonian Institute and National Geographic, report 'How Cats Conquered the World'. One Dr Geigl and her colleagues tested the remains of 352 ancient cats – including several Egyptian cat mummies - dating back to around 9,000 years ago and found they all related to one species, the African wildcat (Felis silvestris lybica) before spreading, along with humanity, across 5 continents.

(Dogs were domesticated at least 14,600 years ago).

Funnily enough, I don't remember the Brahma Kumaris teaching about Krishna and Radhe and "Tiddles and Fido". Cats always received a negative rap from the BKs, portrayed as evil and Maya.

As ever, no response from "God's" own "Unlimited Spiritual University" regarding the latest scientific findings. "The proud foreign scientists are all wrong, they are full of Maya and their own manmat (opinions). There is no recorded history before 2,500 years ago and only a perfect Heaven on Earth for us before that". (No vermin for cats to eat).

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Re: Cats and Neolithic Genocide Pre-Dates BK Heaven on Earth

Post27 Jun 2017

The 5000 year cycle is just the ParamCatma testing children's faith in BK Dogma.

Here kiddie kiddie kiddies. Come and have your sugar treats.

(Sorry, couldn’t resist).
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Post27 Jun 2017

I think they reckon dogs evolved from wolves about 33,000 years ago but some researchers claim it could be as long as 130,000 years ago.

The typical BK answer is to claim all of this stuff ... all of it - including millions of years of dinosaurs, the movement and forming of continents, the development of entire species, all of 'recorded' human history and its genetic evolution and diasporic expansion over the globe - happened in a busy few years, 2,500 years ago, following the end of their exclusive Gold and Silver Aged "heaven on earth". This including a minor "Destruction" (End of civilisation) following the melt down of the nuclear power stations that will power their heavenly society; and magical disappearance of all the high technology that they enjoyed within it, such as mind controlled flying machines.

Magically, although we have relics of other ancient civilisations going back thousands of years, there are zero remains supporting the BK claims.

Do they have any counter claim to evolutionary theory? No, it's just "it happened ... don't think, don't question, remember Baba ... and the scientist will serve you".

The so called more scientific BKs speculation that it was the radioactive release during this "Mini-Destruction" at the end of the Silver Age 2,500 years ago that has corrupted the ageing systems scientists use to date rocks and objects, and the DNA of certain species, e.g. in other words, rapidly turning dinosaurs - the product of said genetic mutations of "heavenly birds" back into Copper Aged chickens or something.

It is amazing how we were able to allow ourselves to go along with it, to become gradually steeped in their stupidity and fairy stories. And how otherwise perfectly intelligent and reasonable Westerners, and educated Indians, still accept it and the authority of those old, utterly uneducated Sindhis and Hindu women who assert that it is still absolutely, unquestionably true, indoctrinating youngsters into it all again.

It is a failure of educated Westerners' responsibility, not to challenge it and them ... not to demand reasonable explanations from them.
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Post28 Jun 2017

It is amazing how we were able to allow ourselves to go along with it,

Well, they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Combine that with adolescent arrogance (in my case) and you can rationalise anything. Only after time and continuing to gather more information and piece together data, evidence and experience do we (as BKs) begin to see that the picture is incomplete.

The fact is that many of us come to the BKs because we are ”hungry” for a type of knowledge that will help us in life. For some, they are satisfied with any ”feelgood” response they get. Others, like myself and I assume most members of this forum, are/were still hungry for a deeper understanding, and despite the ”feelgood” responses aren’t satisfied with the ”official” knowledge explaining the experiences and what’s going on, or for everything else BKs claim to know (via their god).

Thats why IMO it is, in most cases, an error to think that BKs are insincere, purposely fraudulent. Most BKs are happy with whatever understanding they have attained, and part of that is to believe it is the highest understanding, and that any debunking of it ”must” be in error. So they (any BK with a modicum of intelligence) expend a lot of energy theorising the hows and wherefores of Gyan v. science, v. sociology and v. psychology, with a predetermined answer being the only one acceptable.
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Post28 Jun 2017

Meanwhile, a team of paleontologists from China, Canada and the US describe in a new paper a hatchling bird that became trapped in sticky conifer resin about 99 million years ago, in what is now Burma.

I suppose the ethical quotient become present once one is exposed to all this other stuff and have a responsibility to answer it or offer a reasonable explanation/rebuttal.

Fine for Dadi Janki and her like, she exists in a bubble where none of this stuff ever existed (did Western BKs never think to drag her down to the Natural History Museum even once?). More of a problem for Western BKs supporting her kingdom and enculting other Westerners.

At the end of the day, someone is right and someone is wrong and if someone is so far wrong in one aspect, how far wrong are they in others? Are they credible?

I think the true BK ethos is, "Oh well, it worked and we amassed lots of money, property and free labourers, so why change things?"

Perhaps like the introduction of new gods and new revelations in their history, it will only change as that supply is challenged or dinimishes. Unfortunately, "believing in dinosaurs" or evolution - the sharp, clear light of rationalism - just does not quite give the same warm, trippy, drugged up feeling as BK intoxication does.

Perhaps BK intoxication is a lack of oxygen for the brain?
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Re: Cats and Neolithic Genocide Pre-Dates BK Heaven on Earth

Post28 Jun 2017

@ex-l, BKs insist that the datings are wrong, as you know, so why do you think they should respond or even care about any findings that contradict Gyan? They already know about dinosaurs etc for a long time and they persist.

So, it's futile, I think, to present more evidence. They'll just won't accept it.
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Post28 Jun 2017

Excuse me being potentially racist here but do you think that dinosaurs exist within the minds of the average Indian BK, e.g. the women?

Are they taught about them growing up, do they exist in contemporary culture to the same degree they do in the West?
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Post28 Jun 2017

I hadn't thought of that. Could they not be taught about such things? Wow.
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Post28 Jun 2017

First time dinosaur remains have been found with enough intact stomach contents to confirm what paleontologists have proposed was a sauropod's diet.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-27/d ... um/8651792
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Friend wrote:I hadn't thought of that. Could they not be taught about such things? Wow.

Clearly "the original jewels" were not. They were all enculted as children, young girls from a highly closetted and uneducated society.

From the middle management's generation, e.g. all the zone in charges generation and below, pressumably they would have been.

It's easy not to think or question when you have no base information on which to do so.

You know, there's an old sexist joke about how women should be kept, "barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen".

In the BKs its, "barefoot, meditating and doing service".
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Re: Cats and Neolithic Genocide Pre-Dates BK Heaven on Earth

Post04 Jul 2017

It's all fixed in tut Drama.

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