jannisder wrote:Exactly. But if an organization like this is more and more involved in politics, doing all nice talking and politicians know about the VIP service on governments (to gain 3 feet a day and than own the world bit by bit), what would they think about that, that it is all a joke? BTW, they told me they are not a religion. So what are they?
Jannisder please do not be in any doubt about this religion point. It is even in the Murli that what the BKs engage themselves in is a religion. I posted a few Murli points on the site discussing this. The BKs prefer NOT to comtemplate and/or confess to the religion issue perhaps because it might take the gloss of those lofty feelings they have about their teachings and practices. You see Jannisder, what may cloud the issue for the students is that the Murli, and entire BK philosophy, asserts that they are NO LONGER WORSHIPPERS. If any BKWSU student wishes to contribute coherent arguments on this matter I am willing to listen - but they'll have to go some to dissuade me.
On a more general point; I was exploring whether and how it happens that what the BKs preach and the emotional consequence of those teachings seem to be in opposition to each other. Maybe it is because the teachings flip-flop so much that we are kept in a state of confusion, ignorance and denial of the reality of the programming we are receiving.
For instance someone said that:
the effort we have to do is only to become detached then we automatically become loving. There is no need to make separate effort to become loving. The more one becomes detached, the more one becomes loving, automatically.
This dharna sounds illogical and the wrong way around to me. Is it really an inclusive, human viewpoint?
I am wondering whether this phenomena is a product of the programming. So that inspite of the BKs claims to nurture and inculcate loving feelings, the subtle impact of the oblox is that the student psychologically and sub-consciously, gives greater weight to the
first word;
detached over the second word: love.
So, for interactions with humans "an attitude of detachment" becomes the ideal. While Shiva gats ALL our love to the exclusion of real, loving experiences of ourself AND our fellow humans.
I know nothing.