Very interesting quotation from the BKWSU, Jannisder. One might wonder the state of mind of massed individuals whose relationship to sleep, nature, the body etc is to "conquer ... conquer ... conquer".
One also needs to decipher BKSpeak ... By "things of the past", they mean family, friends, loved ones, any other interest or ambition outside of the BKWSU etc ... none of which are to be "kept in the heart" or even remembered.
Anyone of any intelligence or integrity would be deeply offended by the bullsh** factors, e.g. Lekhraj Kirpalani being showered by "the flower of abuses" and going "deep into the depth of Knowledge" and conquering (again) "all these obstacles by love, good wishes and sweetness". They paint him out as if he was some suffering martyr. Now that we have a tiny window into the past, we can see how this is absolute bullsh**.
Firstly, for the fist 20 years Lekhraj Kirpalani thought he was God and did not really that another spirit called Shiva was speaking through him. Excuse me but ... 20 years ... it is hardly "deep" to take 20 years to realise that you are not God! And we see now the quality of the "depth" he got to, the arrogance, the imbecility of it all, the persistent insults they threw at Gandhi, Congress, Westerners etc ... the false predictions of Destruction.
He, and they, also brought upon himself the mild criticisms that they received by, after marrying one 15 year old daughter off to a 50 year old, taking back a second daughter married off to the head of his community. We are left assuming both were married off for the sake of social advancement. That leader of his community also lived next door to the Om Mandli (he had sold Kripalani the house) and was subjected to the noises of the women going into trance or being possessed. The community had concerns about children being in long term trances, trances the BKs themself say lasted up to a week. They had had a good lawyer and played slippery as hell with the court. Again, something they don't mention.
As to rayoflight, I'd be very interested to hear more.
"Dadi" Janki Kripalani and Jayanti Kirpalani have now had DECADES of problems from families, friends and partners of Brahma Kumari followers ... in ALL CONTINENTS. They know all about. In Janki case, going back 7 decades.
As to having "no class", the senior BKs are, however, very skillful about the handling of new adherents. As skillful as intelligence officers or police, and as sharp as the business managers they are. They benefit directly from newcomers adherence in terms of money, free labor and bring in new members. It is in their interest to encourage the "intoxicated Honeymoon Period" when BK followers are high and ... most importantly ... unsullied from all the negativity within the the BK movement, e.g. criticisms of the leadership, "Brothers' Maya" etc.
At the very basest level, their increasingly "First Class Air Travel" army-business-religion marches on its bank accounts ... or the bank accounts of its adherents. Such conflicts cost them time and money. How naive we were ... how naive individuals still are.
I wonder if future BKs are then pigeon holed according to such meetings?
Ray, do you care to comment further about that meeting?
One also needs to decipher BKSpeak ... By "things of the past", they mean family, friends, loved ones, any other interest or ambition outside of the BKWSU etc ... none of which are to be "kept in the heart" or even remembered.
Anyone of any intelligence or integrity would be deeply offended by the bullsh** factors, e.g. Lekhraj Kirpalani being showered by "the flower of abuses" and going "deep into the depth of Knowledge" and conquering (again) "all these obstacles by love, good wishes and sweetness". They paint him out as if he was some suffering martyr. Now that we have a tiny window into the past, we can see how this is absolute bullsh**.
Firstly, for the fist 20 years Lekhraj Kirpalani thought he was God and did not really that another spirit called Shiva was speaking through him. Excuse me but ... 20 years ... it is hardly "deep" to take 20 years to realise that you are not God! And we see now the quality of the "depth" he got to, the arrogance, the imbecility of it all, the persistent insults they threw at Gandhi, Congress, Westerners etc ... the false predictions of Destruction.
He, and they, also brought upon himself the mild criticisms that they received by, after marrying one 15 year old daughter off to a 50 year old, taking back a second daughter married off to the head of his community. We are left assuming both were married off for the sake of social advancement. That leader of his community also lived next door to the Om Mandli (he had sold Kripalani the house) and was subjected to the noises of the women going into trance or being possessed. The community had concerns about children being in long term trances, trances the BKs themself say lasted up to a week. They had had a good lawyer and played slippery as hell with the court. Again, something they don't mention.
As to rayoflight, I'd be very interested to hear more.
"Dadi" Janki Kripalani and Jayanti Kirpalani have now had DECADES of problems from families, friends and partners of Brahma Kumari followers ... in ALL CONTINENTS. They know all about. In Janki case, going back 7 decades.
As to having "no class", the senior BKs are, however, very skillful about the handling of new adherents. As skillful as intelligence officers or police, and as sharp as the business managers they are. They benefit directly from newcomers adherence in terms of money, free labor and bring in new members. It is in their interest to encourage the "intoxicated Honeymoon Period" when BK followers are high and ... most importantly ... unsullied from all the negativity within the the BK movement, e.g. criticisms of the leadership, "Brothers' Maya" etc.
At the very basest level, their increasingly "First Class Air Travel" army-business-religion marches on its bank accounts ... or the bank accounts of its adherents. Such conflicts cost them time and money. How naive we were ... how naive individuals still are.
I wonder if future BKs are then pigeon holed according to such meetings?
Ray, do you care to comment further about that meeting?