28 May 2014
Arvind - "Their family life is far better now."
Well, what Baba says about those families which have collapsed after one of the family member followed them wholeheartedly. If God is there(where you think) in manifested form, there should not be even a single case like that. And if it happens, he should put everything right with his mighty power. Only lectures exists, that's all. Its your karma & inner beauty which gives you peace today, not Baba.
"Its a kind of 'bandhan' as well which will obstruct remembrance of Supreme Soul and thus Moksha. "
What do you understand by Moksha? Kindly elaborate. There is no moksha till you are under some control. Till you are in cycle of birth & death, there is no moksha. Till you do not attain full freedom, there is no moksha. Or you are talking about a moksha where you have to live with God for sometime & then again descend back to get sufferings. Becoming a puppet is not moksha. I would prefer to enjoy my life instead of getting that kind of Moksha. Just be clear that any kind of bondage obstructs moksha whether it is punya(meritorious) karma or paap(demeritorious) karma.
"Have you ever heard lectures of Sister Shivani ?"
Sorry, is it needed? She is just a smart presenter who hides all that information which is given personally to BK. I would like to think to follow her given that she speaks out whole BK concept/theory atleast once on television. What she tells are general psychological aspects. Even you can talk like that.
"Baba also keeps telling that 'dusro ki duaon se hi tum anand ke jhule mai jhuloge' (You will feel true happiness by blessings of others)."
This statement itself violates Law of Karma. By others blessing can you bind merit karmas & gets its effect in next life? One blesses you on basis of your external acts, how could it bring happiness? You may act good outwardly but if intentions are wrong, it is going to bring sufferings whether blesses you or curses you. It will not work in adhyatm.
"Again you are right, however its more about intention than words."
And when words are not integrated with intentions, it is ashuddhyoga.
"Even Krishna inspired Arjuna to do the violence. "
Really, do you think so?
Whole yudh (war) was a consequence of karma of million of soldier. Even if Arjuna would have left that place, still war would have occured. And Lord Krishna saw all that within his knowledge that no matter how much Arjun pushes himself out of war, he will fight & will become a medium to cause death of lacs of soldiers. What Lord Krishna did was to grace Arjuna with self realization so that not even a single karma binds him during the war. That was also the punyanubandhi karma of Arjuna that he got self realization at that point. His intentios were pure & did not wanted to kill even a single person. It is not a common science which you are trying to interpret. For that first thing needed is Tattvagyan, get that & your work will be done.
"Sometimes words do not reflect the original intention."
That is remark of a weak person whose words and intentions flow in different ways.
"Shiv Baba helps even non-BKs, they are also his child."
Soul is an eternal element. It neither has Father nor anything else. The child Father relation is there for relative self which exists with full proof.
"she corrected me very firmly that 'others' are also children of Baba."
If in spirituality, there is mine, yours, ours, others,etc know it is a dharm not adhyatm.
" Baba loves all, no matter what part one is playing in the drama."
Sometimes BKs say Baba does not love those who do not remember him & sometimes this whole new thing comes. Dude, reach a unique conclusion first.
Arvind -"The meaning of Dushashan is 'Du-Shashan : One.... "
Earlier people were named with their attributes that they bear from right from birth as in this case. It was a complete vidya which used to consider time,place of birth, planetory motions, phase of sun & moon,etc. Each alphabet of name was the outcome of the precise calculations. It was not like that one can choose any name. Parents ofcourse would never name their child in that way. But see today, people with name 'suryaprakash' or 'mahendra' may also lead to downfall of whole family & bring shame.
"Gandhari had total 100 sons, so at the time of birth of last son, Duryodhan should have been grand Father or great grand Father."
Do you know the life span of people during Satyug, Dwapar & Treta. It is more than thousands of years. It reduces during first half of cycle & then again rises. And yes, I am not talking about 5000yr cycle. Leave it, it is beyond our human intellect to comprehend.
"To me it looks like some enlightened yogi wanted to spread of teachings so he weaved a great story around that. Without Mahabharat, no body would have known about Gita. "
Well, good luck with that. Your belief on religion has already started to end. But SAVE it as that is the only last hope.
