ClearOfBK
You seem to have misunderstood the terminology. A meditation experience or any other experience may bring a feeling of euphoria (let’s use that term because that’s the one Awakening mentioned).
That euphoria does not in itself necessarily lead to cognitive dissonance. Nor is it the only reason people may develop CD.
Cognitive Dissonance is a matter of ”cognition” - what is cognitive, or consciously rationalised or made to seem logical, can be affected by emotional and psychological states - eg desire.
Most psychologists will tell you that "logic” and "reason" and consciousness is the tip of the iceberg, and it appears to the person as perfectly logical and reasonable but they do not recognise the undercurrents that have taken the iceberg to its current location.
The meditation experience can be wonderful, but then people are asked to buy a whole package that is said to go with it.
Some people believe that the two are inseparable - the experience and the package - but some don’t want to pay the price for buying into the package and walk away.
Others don't believe they are inextricably linked and walk away, to follow their experiences without commitment to the demands of the BK package.
Some however do believe the experience and the whole BK package are linked and spend all their time churning and meditating, looking for ways to make the irrational rational, the illogical logical, i.e try to make the rest of the package as desirable as the attractive euphoria of meditation and make it all fit and make sense.
This leads to CD, where standards used to judge, e.g. science as ‘unreliable and changeable are NOT applied to the Gyan or the history etc.
ClearOfBK, I was a serious top level BK for more years than I care to nominate; my guess is maybe equal to half your life? I started in the 1970s, I was considered among the best teachers of meditation & Gyan in London by a number of the Seniors there. I still meditate, but not in BK ego-aspirational/affirmational method.
I was cognitively dissonant for a long time, as ex-l has also admitted as well. I know what I am talking about in this. You are right - but not so much projection, more like, "it takes one to know one". The recovered addict can help the current one recognise the patterns. That's all I am trying to do here on this thread.
You may just be meaning that you consider your past meditation experience as "cognitive dissonance" in the above ... In a nomal person's life too there are various moments of such exhiliration or euphoria like when in love. Its not cognitive dissonance though....or is it?
You seem to have misunderstood the terminology. A meditation experience or any other experience may bring a feeling of euphoria (let’s use that term because that’s the one Awakening mentioned).
That euphoria does not in itself necessarily lead to cognitive dissonance. Nor is it the only reason people may develop CD.
Cognitive Dissonance is a matter of ”cognition” - what is cognitive, or consciously rationalised or made to seem logical, can be affected by emotional and psychological states - eg desire.
Most psychologists will tell you that "logic” and "reason" and consciousness is the tip of the iceberg, and it appears to the person as perfectly logical and reasonable but they do not recognise the undercurrents that have taken the iceberg to its current location.
The meditation experience can be wonderful, but then people are asked to buy a whole package that is said to go with it.
Some people believe that the two are inseparable - the experience and the package - but some don’t want to pay the price for buying into the package and walk away.
Others don't believe they are inextricably linked and walk away, to follow their experiences without commitment to the demands of the BK package.
Some however do believe the experience and the whole BK package are linked and spend all their time churning and meditating, looking for ways to make the irrational rational, the illogical logical, i.e try to make the rest of the package as desirable as the attractive euphoria of meditation and make it all fit and make sense.
This leads to CD, where standards used to judge, e.g. science as ‘unreliable and changeable are NOT applied to the Gyan or the history etc.
ClearOfBK, I was a serious top level BK for more years than I care to nominate; my guess is maybe equal to half your life? I started in the 1970s, I was considered among the best teachers of meditation & Gyan in London by a number of the Seniors there. I still meditate, but not in BK ego-aspirational/affirmational method.
I was cognitively dissonant for a long time, as ex-l has also admitted as well. I know what I am talking about in this. You are right - but not so much projection, more like, "it takes one to know one". The recovered addict can help the current one recognise the patterns. That's all I am trying to do here on this thread.