Yup, that was a fateful decision to allow her to go ... I am sorry.
It means exactly what they say. The soul, as in the actual individuals or personality of the individual, is like a spark of light contained in the middle of the brain. "God" (ShivBaba) is also a spark of light. He lives in the Brahmand but is able to come down and possess the body of their spirit medium, like have not one but two bulbs in a bed side lamp (the soul of the individual and the soul they consider to be the supreme one, or "God" in a monotheistic, Christian or Islamic way); and then look and speak and act in a strange robotic way through it.
Those videos is meant to be god himself speaking. Not a god but the one and only supreme god.
How does one come to believe that? Well, you are not really told what is going on specifically to begin with, and then even after you are you still don't for a while, you still have your own vague impressionistic ideas, but you are encouraged to "suspend disbelief" and start to focus your mind on him.
Generally, nothing happens to begin with but, generally, at some point the individual has some kind of experience, e.g. a feeling of lightnesses, a pressure of power, a high, some kind of vision that encourages you *something* is going on; and then you are love-bombed by other BKs.
You might ask her, un-confrontationally, how or what experience she had to convince herself.
This is where readying over the teaching training manual might help to understand what they have told her.
Well, those are two *very* bad and *very* naughty qualities according to BKism. This is where, if you are stuck with BKism, you might be able to use BKism against her or to control her. You would have to use the search function in the Encyclopedia or download them from the Library, e.g. here Murli + anger.
Anger and Ego. She is meant to be a peaceful soul, like "sugar in the milk", everyone is supposed to be satisfied with her.
Anger, they say (short temperedness) is born of unfulfilled sexual desire. In order, it goes; ego (a product of not being "soul-conscious" a wrong association with the body), lust (desire for sensual experience), anger (at not getting it), then greed (wanting more).
If you are stuck with it, you should ask for a copy of all the Murlis, and the rules she is supposed to be following, and then hold her up to them. They are suppose to keep a daily diary or "chart" of their thoughts and behaviour, so last thing you can ask to check it with her.
You can ask her specifically, "What Shrimat (advice) did the centres-in-charge give her as far as behaving at home with respect to you?"
She won't like it but she won't be able to argue against it. Basically, what is happening is that your authority, or both your consensuses (the consensual agreements between you and her in the relationship about what you do and how you live, what your aims and what the object of family life etc) is being taking over by the Brahma Kumari leaders.
As she does not have access to the very top "allegedly" most enlightened ones, this means the authority in your family is being replaced by the Murlis (the word of the BK god figure) and the local centre-in-charge to whom she will run for advice all the time; in addition to which, the BKs she speaks to will be conspiring with her, getting off at playing mini-gurus giving her advice on how to trick and mislead you in your own home.
If you reject BKism or start to obstruct it, you will be portray as evil or devilish. Literally, e.g. "you are spiritually asleep and deluded, they are awake, chosen and self-realised". If you do so, they will advise a long-term strategy beginning with compromised to their rules ... but, strictly speaking, she should be being "Om Shanti" at all times, sweet and spiritual. She should be "earning a pass mark" (Murli quote) from you for her divine behaviour.
You can point out how crazy it is to believe "God" has entered and possessed their spirit medium, and how time is only 5,000 years old, how dinosaurs appeared 2,500 years ago, etc ... and you can warn her that they have made numerous false predictions of the End of the World and falsified the history of the religion ... you can ask her if she really believes it all ... but if she is determined to play by the BK rules, and have BK as the final authority in your house, then you'd better study those rules and use it to kickstart her rational mind.
Deep down, she probably does not really believe it ... keep reminded her of that and her rational intelligence ... but there will be a sort of power game going on to gain control; her, then the centre-in-charges, then their god spirits.
Actually, they believe it is not just their god spirit entering the spirit medium; they believe it is a combined form (two light bulbs) of "God" and their deceased guru-founder Lekhraj Kirpalani. This is what they call "BapDada".
So, in those videos, they believe there are three "light bulbs" in the whispering old lady's body; the old lady, "God" (ShivBaba) and Lekhraj Kirpalani.
What do people thing about trying to cut all BK connections off by contacting the centre directly and telling them to stop contacting her and sending Murlis, same with the BKs that phone her up to drip feed her, and explaining to them that you have a child and it is destroying your family life?
Have you been on a long active holiday with her recently (no BKism allowed)?
Think of her relationship with the BK god spirit as another man trying to seduce her away from you. This is actually what they say, "Shiv Baba is the Husband of all husbands". They call him the Father, Husband, Lover and Beloved.
You are being cuckolded and are blind to it.
Of course, I don't think Shiva Baba is god, and we cannot say if these spirits exist on not, therefore all we can reliably say is that Senior Sisters and Brothers within BKism are taking over your position in your family and house (with the aims of taking and control it, and your wallet.
Oh, and your child if they can. How old was he ... 5? You need to start educating him about what is going on. Otherwise he will be brainwashed too. You need to tell him his mother is a little sick and not to believe in her or her god spirit otherwise he will be sitting brainwashed staring at red light bulbs or pictures of Lekhraj Kirpalani soon, if not already).
Wake up to what is going on my friend.
avidbkhater wrote:I do not get the whole idea of "God Coming". What does that even mean? some lady speaking in rough demonic kind of voice and whole BK junta believes that to be a voice of God.
It means exactly what they say. The soul, as in the actual individuals or personality of the individual, is like a spark of light contained in the middle of the brain. "God" (ShivBaba) is also a spark of light. He lives in the Brahmand but is able to come down and possess the body of their spirit medium, like have not one but two bulbs in a bed side lamp (the soul of the individual and the soul they consider to be the supreme one, or "God" in a monotheistic, Christian or Islamic way); and then look and speak and act in a strange robotic way through it.
Those videos is meant to be god himself speaking. Not a god but the one and only supreme god.
How does one come to believe that? Well, you are not really told what is going on specifically to begin with, and then even after you are you still don't for a while, you still have your own vague impressionistic ideas, but you are encouraged to "suspend disbelief" and start to focus your mind on him.
Generally, nothing happens to begin with but, generally, at some point the individual has some kind of experience, e.g. a feeling of lightnesses, a pressure of power, a high, some kind of vision that encourages you *something* is going on; and then you are love-bombed by other BKs.
You might ask her, un-confrontationally, how or what experience she had to convince herself.
This is where readying over the teaching training manual might help to understand what they have told her.
Problem is my wife is very short tempered and has big ego problem. She doesnt like to be told.
Well, those are two *very* bad and *very* naughty qualities according to BKism. This is where, if you are stuck with BKism, you might be able to use BKism against her or to control her. You would have to use the search function in the Encyclopedia or download them from the Library, e.g. here Murli + anger.
Sakar Murli 2003/02/22 Revised
"Look within yourself and remove any bad habits such an anger or lust from yourself. Remain like milk and sugar. Follow the Shrimat of the One. Do not have any conflict"
Anger and Ego. She is meant to be a peaceful soul, like "sugar in the milk", everyone is supposed to be satisfied with her.
Anger, they say (short temperedness) is born of unfulfilled sexual desire. In order, it goes; ego (a product of not being "soul-conscious" a wrong association with the body), lust (desire for sensual experience), anger (at not getting it), then greed (wanting more).
If you are stuck with it, you should ask for a copy of all the Murlis, and the rules she is supposed to be following, and then hold her up to them. They are suppose to keep a daily diary or "chart" of their thoughts and behaviour, so last thing you can ask to check it with her.
You can ask her specifically, "What Shrimat (advice) did the centres-in-charge give her as far as behaving at home with respect to you?"
She won't like it but she won't be able to argue against it. Basically, what is happening is that your authority, or both your consensuses (the consensual agreements between you and her in the relationship about what you do and how you live, what your aims and what the object of family life etc) is being taking over by the Brahma Kumari leaders.
As she does not have access to the very top "allegedly" most enlightened ones, this means the authority in your family is being replaced by the Murlis (the word of the BK god figure) and the local centre-in-charge to whom she will run for advice all the time; in addition to which, the BKs she speaks to will be conspiring with her, getting off at playing mini-gurus giving her advice on how to trick and mislead you in your own home.
If you reject BKism or start to obstruct it, you will be portray as evil or devilish. Literally, e.g. "you are spiritually asleep and deluded, they are awake, chosen and self-realised". If you do so, they will advise a long-term strategy beginning with compromised to their rules ... but, strictly speaking, she should be being "Om Shanti" at all times, sweet and spiritual. She should be "earning a pass mark" (Murli quote) from you for her divine behaviour.
You can point out how crazy it is to believe "God" has entered and possessed their spirit medium, and how time is only 5,000 years old, how dinosaurs appeared 2,500 years ago, etc ... and you can warn her that they have made numerous false predictions of the End of the World and falsified the history of the religion ... you can ask her if she really believes it all ... but if she is determined to play by the BK rules, and have BK as the final authority in your house, then you'd better study those rules and use it to kickstart her rational mind.
Deep down, she probably does not really believe it ... keep reminded her of that and her rational intelligence ... but there will be a sort of power game going on to gain control; her, then the centre-in-charges, then their god spirits.
Actually, they believe it is not just their god spirit entering the spirit medium; they believe it is a combined form (two light bulbs) of "God" and their deceased guru-founder Lekhraj Kirpalani. This is what they call "BapDada".
So, in those videos, they believe there are three "light bulbs" in the whispering old lady's body; the old lady, "God" (ShivBaba) and Lekhraj Kirpalani.
What do people thing about trying to cut all BK connections off by contacting the centre directly and telling them to stop contacting her and sending Murlis, same with the BKs that phone her up to drip feed her, and explaining to them that you have a child and it is destroying your family life?
Have you been on a long active holiday with her recently (no BKism allowed)?
Think of her relationship with the BK god spirit as another man trying to seduce her away from you. This is actually what they say, "Shiv Baba is the Husband of all husbands". They call him the Father, Husband, Lover and Beloved.
You are being cuckolded and are blind to it.
Of course, I don't think Shiva Baba is god, and we cannot say if these spirits exist on not, therefore all we can reliably say is that Senior Sisters and Brothers within BKism are taking over your position in your family and house (with the aims of taking and control it, and your wallet.
Oh, and your child if they can. How old was he ... 5? You need to start educating him about what is going on. Otherwise he will be brainwashed too. You need to tell him his mother is a little sick and not to believe in her or her god spirit otherwise he will be sitting brainwashed staring at red light bulbs or pictures of Lekhraj Kirpalani soon, if not already).
Wake up to what is going on my friend.
Sakar Murli 28 August 2015 wrote:All of them are orphans whereas you belong to the Lord and Master. You do not have to fight. By becoming Brahmins you belong to the Lord and Master. A husband and Father are said to be the lord and master. Shiv Baba is the Husband of all husbands.
When a girl gets engaged she says: When will I meet my husband? You souls say: Baba, I have become engaged to You. Now, how can I meet You? Some write the truth and some hide a great deal. They don’t write honestly and say: Baba, I made this mistake. Please forgive me! If anyone falls into vice, their intellect is unable to imbibe anything. Baba says: If you make such a severe mistake you will be completely finished.