If you are in contact with the BKs, please ask them what is the most recent version for the sake of clarity. I think you mean 150, not 170. I've never heard 170.
Friend wrote:Though, if my calculations are correct, the 900,000 people at the beginning would mean 1,800,000 at the end, given a 1 couple/2 kids formula.
... Then the day afterwards all the 150 year old parents die and it is back down to 900,000 again.
A crore is 10,000,000. A lakh is 100,000 ...? Do they say 30,000,000 for the end of Golden Age these days?
Yes, I understand the population would fluctuate up and down as two were born and two died but, ultimately, two were born/two died equals the same.
Also, if there are 900,000 all born together at 1/1/1 ... do they all have children at the same time and die at the same time? Or do some of the 900,000 come late to the party? Does one parent die earlier than the others (i.e. men less than women, at less than 150 years?).
Dates: 1/1/1 ... ... 1/1/37.5 ... .....1/1/39 ... ...... 1/1/150
900,000 ... first child 1,350,000 ... second child 1,800,000 ... death of parents 900,000.
What a bizarre society ... a population explosion doubling society ... and then a mass death halving it. Let's agree on an average figure of around 1,500,000 to account for some irregularity in the rythmn of life and death. And then try and work out how we get to 330,000 million in another 1,250 years.
On one hand, I've certainly never heard of them having 5 or 6 kids; on the other hand, I have heard of people suggesting they have twins. I think that is a PBKism.
The honest truth is, I have forgotten whether such specific details existed in the Murlis. They may well be on this forum from a much earlier ... and, of course, some BKs have their own manmat figures trying to make them work out. I remember someone saying that towards the end of the Silver Age as "decline" satart to enter, perfect balance was effected and they started having 3 children.
I think the 3 figure was just one BK's theory to try and explain the population growth. Otherwise, how can it grow? Two born, two die = same number.
Since my day, they have also changed the ages for marriage and coronation because of the problem of Destruction not happening in 1976 or 1986 and Lekhraj Kirpalani not being reborn as Krishna.
I have also noticed changes in that prediction, ie Krishna being born in time for the beginning of the Golden Age which is said to start in 2036 when he is crowned as Emperor.
I've never heard of the 37.5 years figure ... but if it was true surely that means Krishna was born in 1998?
And if each imperial couple only rules for 75 years ... then they'd need 16 ruling couples to keep the continuation of the dynasty running. Not 8 as they claim.
You see, it's all scrappy and confused as hell.
What is it was just Lekhraj Kirpalani trying to include all the traditional numbers and make sense of them, e.g. 8, 108, 16,108, 33 Crore, 5,000 years, 4 ages etc etc etc ... are all just traditional numbers.
Lekhraj Kirpalani's obsession, as a jeweller and businessman, was that he loved regularity and symmetry and just tried to create a cosmic model that was regular and symmetrical and he had no one around him with any brains and education to question and challenge him.
I am sorry to say it so bluntly but I feel like it is trying to make sense of an autistic patient's state of mind. There is no sense to it. It just does not work out. Do you know how autistic people love order and detail?
You can grasp the entire Knowledge in your mind, know every bit of it (
there's actually not a lot to hold in your mind, the Murlis are *very* repetitive) but really all you are doing is working out the logic of Lekhraj Kirpalani's obsessive-compulsive disorder. An obsessive-compulsive disorder based on his cultural background.
For me, Lekhraj Kirpalani was a little mentally ill. He was highly functional, he had his wealth and experience to support his condition of playing god to a diminishing circle of women (
the community shrank from 100s down to 10s of followers), but he had cracked at some point. Perhaps after going to see the saddhu.
An old Mount Abu resident used to say this of him, how in the middle of a conversation he would switch off and drift away. The BKs try and make this out to be some mystical wonder ... but, on the other hand, it migt have just been a kind of mental illness.
Their money business, their income stream, their food and shelter is based on making Lekhraj Kirpalani look mystical, appear like a superman god figure ... and they are getting worse and worse at it with those huge figures they make of him.
I think the 'mental illness theory' is the far more rational conclusion.
In my opinion ... and this is just opinion ... he went to see the saddhu. The saddhu blew his mind somehow, e.g. by giving him some too strong siddhi he was not ready for. And afterwards, being without group/peer support such as a religious order, he tried to make sense of it all by himself and came up with the nonsense he did.
Historically, we know his family thought he had lost his mind and sent him away. Even the BKs admit that. There are many reports of him retreating away or "switching off" in company. Such symptoms are noted in other traditions, e.g. the dangers of uncontrolled kundalini rising. I think something like that happened to him.
BKism is just trying to make up a story to make sense of it, and to cover it up the mental illness which in India carries a bad stigma.
Many mentally ill people are highly creative, inspired and do great things, it comes with the territory, e.g. with episodic manic depressives.
But we have to be sensible to separate the brillance from the illness ... and not catch it from them!