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Swayam wrote:How can I change this habit?
Simple ... by not acting on it.
Are you talking about BK meditation for 6 or 7 years, or other forms of meditation?
Pink Panther wrote:Deciding that you wish to concentrate on a particular thing but find you can’t indicates it is not what you want to do mentally at the time. Meditation starts by noticing what is going on in your mental processes without getting caught up.
But i really want to be able to concentrate continuously.
I don't disagree with this. Many things need to be looked at in two different ways, firstly in the terms by which they operate and judged as to how much they are what they say they are, then secondly by a more detached framework, anthropologically, sociologically etc.ex-l wrote:However, I still think BKism proper is best understood *not* in the model of "Yoga", "spirituality", even "meditation" ... but as a spiritualist tradition. The point of the meditation is to be fixed, silent and connected in order that BapDada comes through you. It is a tradition based on the channelling and mediumship of spirits.
I have never heard of a real skeptic being possessed, do you have any references or links. ?Absolute changes in personalities as even skeptic individuals were "possessed" beyond their will.
Passivity.- Although the oncoming of mystical states may be facilitated by preliminary voluntary operations, as by fixing the attention, or going through certain bodily performances, or in other ways which manuals of mysticism prescribe; yet when the characteristic sort of consciousness once has set in, the mystic feels as if his own will were in abeyance, and indeed sometimes as if he were grasped and held by a superior power.
The subject of it immediately says that it defies expression, that no adequate report of its contents can be given in words. It follows from this that its quality must be directly experienced; it cannot be imparted or transferred to others. In this peculiarity mystical states are more like states of feeling than like states of intellect. No one can make clear to another who has never had a certain feeling, in what the quality or worth of it consists.
A man goes to psychologist. As part of the therapy, the psychologist pulls out a set of Rorscharch’s inkblot cards.
He asks - What do you see?
The man replies -A man and woman having sex
What about this one?
Another man and woman having sex.
And this one?
The same but the woman is on top.
This one?
They’re doing it doggy style.
The psychologist puts the cards away and says - it seems you have a fixation about sex.
The man says - Look who’s talking, you’re the one with the dirty pictures!
Pink Panther wrote:It's no different to those who 'see' the figure of a bearded man in a molten cheese on toast or in the shadows of a mountain on mars and say its Jesus ...
ex-l wrote:No, it's very different ... and you're just belittling the conversion and distracting from the original subject.