How do you experience God's presence?

Dear all,

A short while ago ex-l made an interesting observation, namely

a lot of people do go through a stage in the BKs where they believe, and are encouraged to believe that EVERYTHING has significance and EVERYTHING is Baba talking to them. Even in life around them. It is borderline obsessional madness. A fairly typical form of religion mania.

Having pondered on this over the weekend, I've decided to open a new topic to see how others experience God's presence. I certainly went through the phase which ex-l describes, although for me it was before my first contact with the BK and was part of the process of opening back up to the divine presence in my life. In fact, this led me later on to question the BK teaching about God not being omnipresent.

Although things have moved on for me over the last few years, I would still acknowledge that point about "everthing having significance ... in life around". For me, it's come to a point where I can consciously tune into that divinity and be amazed by it or simply accept that it's there (in everyone and everything) and just get on with life. The point where it becomes madness or mania is where you try to analyse everything that's happening, rather than just accepting it.

And just to round off, I don't hear God talking to me, but I do see visual effects in meditation and feel electric vibrations tingles and pulses, which I choose to interpret as divine in origin and see as affirming that all's well with me and the world.

Hope this is a worthy common room topic. Best wishes to you all ...

it was before my first contact with the BK and was part of the process of opening back up to the divine presence in my life. In fact, this led me later on to question the BK teaching about God not being omnipresent. Although things have moved on for me over the last few years, I would still acknowledge that point about "everthing having significance ... in life around".

I had / have similar experiences and am currently thinking a lot about the "touching and catching" powers. I will post about it in a near future. I have to get some more evidence, do more processing.

I am still reading signs and appreciating Baba and Drama and the signals I receive. I am, though, in a phase of introvertedness and sort of "no frills" pragmatism. I feel tuned into the unlimited but don't want to make up too many stories and fantasies. I want to keep my mind in an open, listening mode, but my feet on the ground.

I went through a phase during which I felt I had to listen to Baba and be his puppet. I suffered a lot and necessarily had to ask myself many questions, where the main one was: was I really talking with Baba? Or it was my imagination, my desires speaking? Or some different, vicious force was mis-leading me and presenting itself as God? BKs can get very excited about dreams and touchings they receive, but where's the certificate of origin for these messages?

Just today I was thinking that when souls are lost and depressed, either before, during or after Gyan, they become particularily vulnerable to negative forces also. Someone from beyond maybe recruiting volunteers and donors. For which purposes and in cooperation with which organization? And is it "the ONE", or many at work? Maybe many stations we can tune ourselves onto!