Yes, I think we should. I will have a look at the poll system and see how it works but I think we might have to break them up into three separate polls.
I apologise to the rest of your folks for not to backing down on this issue. I am absolutely sure the movie will be very viewable when it finally comes out, especially for the growing BK marketplace. But, sadly, it is impossible to remove it from the tangled web we all weave, when we practice to deceive non-BKs and it would have been better to have kept it entirely independent, or entirely inhouse.
I am not surprised to hear that The Tao of the Traveller work was entirely completed and THEN delivered as a finished piece to the BKWSU. Other experiences would suggest that is the only way to get things done ... especially headed off into the arts. Another Sir Walter Scott reference, for those that got caught in the first above, children and fools, we are told, should never look at half-done work. The same is true of those that love having committee meetings.
jim freidman wrote:ex-l wrote so many things about the film ... When I tackled him about these untruths, he suddenly said he wasn’t referring to the film but talking about the film industry.
Actually, jim, if you had actually read my posts you would have seen that on the 13 Mar I clearly stated that I had not seen the movie and what my position was. If you chill out and read my post above, it is clear that I am not discussing the film industry ...
ex=l wrote:Re: The Tao of the Traveller by ex-l on 13 Mar 08
I am not a critic of the film as I have not seen it but I am generally critical of the fact the BKWSU does not clearly label its service as such, BKs do not make clear their relationships and present themselves as independents etc ... and talking the name of another religion 'crosses the line'. Then there is the business side of it all we have yet to discover.
Again, in your raging lust to discredit me, it may be too subtle a distinction to make but, e.g. it is not necessary for anyone to have seen any movie to make a critique of, say, corruption in the movie industry. The two aspects are entirely separate.
Comments which indeed apply even more to the academic paper than to the Tao of the Traveller.
Jim, you have only ever
posted on two topics. Yes, you made assertions about me personally in the topic about my conduct and I responded to them patiently,
here.
jim freidman wrote:Absolutely. The result for me is that I am an infrequent user and am very disappointed. I hoped for real discussion and in some areas that almost works, but ex-l does keep popping up no matter what area you look into. In the first area of my contact with ex-l he made so many incorrect statements as though they were fact, that I cannot see him as either ‘honest’ or straightforward’ as some replies have said. He kvetches on about things he knows nothing about, making statements that aren’t true.
Also, rather than talking about the institution and the powers that be, he spent a lot of time attacking some other Brahmins.
Reference to "the Traveller" is in a classic old Murli song, "Oh traveller of the night, do not become weary. The destination of dawn is not far off ..." and widespread through out the channelled messages the Brahma Kumari call Murlis. I have argued that the Ramsays have been afforded privileges by the powers that be, no one has contradicted that. Tamasin herself knows this but it is for herself to speak about. Just as before, here is the evidence for the public to read supporting my statement.
Sakar Murli 2003/06/05 Revised - Shiv Baba says: I, the Traveller, am ever-pure. This is the impure, vicious world ..."
Sakar Murli 2003/08/09 Revised - "He is such a beautiful Traveller. You were of no use. I now teach you and make you"
Sakar Murli 2004/01/24 Revised - "spiritual children know very well that they are travellers and that this is not their land ... The Father explains to you souls: All of you are travellers ... You too are travellers who come here just once."
Sakar Murli 2004/02/11Revised - "I have The Knowledge that I am a Traveller for only a few days. Similarly, you too have come..."
Sakar Murli 2003/03/04 Revised - "You children understand the meaning of “travellers of the night”"
Other direct Murli references are just too common to mention; "
Incorporeal child ... Incorporeal Father ... the diamond ... the jewel ... easy (Raja Yoga) ... know me with your mind (manmanabhav) ... golded red light ... union ... Incorporeal One, Eternally Pure, Ocean of Knowledge ... Lord of the Gita, Lord of the Innocent ... Shiva ... Father of Buddha, Father of Shankaracharya, Father of Abrahma, Father of Brahma, Father of Mohammed, Father of All ... One God, One God ... Avyakt ... Remembering God is Yoga ... Cycle of time (nice abstract picture of it too) ... This is the time of the confluence ... the time of the highest pilgrimage ... only one path will take you there ... the path of rememberance ... The Eight Powers ... Surpreme Soul ... Ocean ... infinitesimal spark of light ..."
All pure references direct from the Murli or BKWSU Knowledge, of which its zone-in-charge centers are all mentioned on the back pages of the book.