This is really a carry over from; All people can hear my thoughts where one ex-BK has been left convinced he broadcasting thoughts to all of the world (what they tell us we do). As it was as common to the BKWSU, and specific enough in itself, I thought I would start a new topic. I was surprised to discover that there was no such topic, if there is ... please merge this one.
Recently, mbbhat has written on more than one occasion about "the power of thought", thought and the soul being "the most powerful thing". This is concurrent with BKWSU teachings. Followers are encouraging to give up everything else and "become powerful" ... kings ... light house and might houses. Everything is about "Power".
Personally, I am put off by that. I think it speaks more about their political ambitions. I think it is a deceptive sell to otherwise weak individuals who are really getting little to nothing back ... give us your mind, your money and your time and we will give you Power ... POWERS ... you will become the most POWERFUL OF ALL! Uh-oh ... but it is common to many religions, e.g. TM and Siddhi Powers, Scientology and OT Power, BKs and Silence Power. Its all "power, power, power". Ethics, usefulness, ordinariness are hard enough to achieve and sustain.
OK. So to ask the question if this is actually real. Are thoughts the most "powerful" think or is that just a pleasant metaphor? How do we measure their effect? How much science has been done in this area and what results has it come up with? Can anyone offer a failsafe, reproducible experiment of powerful thought (i.e. 'do this' and 'that will happen' every time) or proof BKs are more powerful than non-BKs? Nope?
How often do we filter out of our minds failures of "The Power of the Mind" and exaggerate random and minor successes as "The Power of the Mind" as "proof". You know, e.g. when Baba or a Senior Sister tells us that "Victory is Assured" and it does not actually happen.
Now, I, personally, accept that stuff like "spiritual healing" or mind-matter influences happens. I accept that there has been science done in similar areas to evidence it, e.g. scientific validation of Matthew Manning's gifts. I am just not sure that we know very much about it, it never seems to be reliable, we have no idea of the scale of "powerfulness". How and when do we know if and when we are doing and achieving nothing and for how long? Where any proof or reliable testing and why it is just left to faith?
Is there any more proofs than the financial and political gains which are paraded in front of followers and conditionally shared with them? Are those so special and unique?
In common to this, I was thinking about "miracles", a common component in religious faith and one such incident in particular; Marc Koska (funnily enough a Scientologist), who was given an OBE for inventing a new autodisable syringe that has since saved millions of lives. And I thought stuff like that; science, medicine, engineering even, stuff that takes real hard work and work pretty much every time, are true miracles not sitting doing nothing believing one is being powerful.
Recently, mbbhat has written on more than one occasion about "the power of thought", thought and the soul being "the most powerful thing". This is concurrent with BKWSU teachings. Followers are encouraging to give up everything else and "become powerful" ... kings ... light house and might houses. Everything is about "Power".
Personally, I am put off by that. I think it speaks more about their political ambitions. I think it is a deceptive sell to otherwise weak individuals who are really getting little to nothing back ... give us your mind, your money and your time and we will give you Power ... POWERS ... you will become the most POWERFUL OF ALL! Uh-oh ... but it is common to many religions, e.g. TM and Siddhi Powers, Scientology and OT Power, BKs and Silence Power. Its all "power, power, power". Ethics, usefulness, ordinariness are hard enough to achieve and sustain.
OK. So to ask the question if this is actually real. Are thoughts the most "powerful" think or is that just a pleasant metaphor? How do we measure their effect? How much science has been done in this area and what results has it come up with? Can anyone offer a failsafe, reproducible experiment of powerful thought (i.e. 'do this' and 'that will happen' every time) or proof BKs are more powerful than non-BKs? Nope?
How often do we filter out of our minds failures of "The Power of the Mind" and exaggerate random and minor successes as "The Power of the Mind" as "proof". You know, e.g. when Baba or a Senior Sister tells us that "Victory is Assured" and it does not actually happen.
Now, I, personally, accept that stuff like "spiritual healing" or mind-matter influences happens. I accept that there has been science done in similar areas to evidence it, e.g. scientific validation of Matthew Manning's gifts. I am just not sure that we know very much about it, it never seems to be reliable, we have no idea of the scale of "powerfulness". How and when do we know if and when we are doing and achieving nothing and for how long? Where any proof or reliable testing and why it is just left to faith?
Is there any more proofs than the financial and political gains which are paraded in front of followers and conditionally shared with them? Are those so special and unique?
In common to this, I was thinking about "miracles", a common component in religious faith and one such incident in particular; Marc Koska (funnily enough a Scientologist), who was given an OBE for inventing a new autodisable syringe that has since saved millions of lives. And I thought stuff like that; science, medicine, engineering even, stuff that takes real hard work and work pretty much every time, are true miracles not sitting doing nothing believing one is being powerful.