shivsena wrote:I am just wondering about the basis of why PBKs call themselves PBKs, when Ram's soul (who is supposed to be Prajapita by PBKs) does not call himself Prajapita (Father of humanity) openly. There are 3 souls in the body of Veerendra Dev Dixit : Shiva does not say directly that HE is Father-teacher-Satguru; Ram does not acknowledge that HE is Prajapita and Krishna does not say that he is Brahma. So no one knows 'who is who' in the body of Veerendra Dev Dixit and there is just confusion and no one has the courage to ask how long this game of confusion will go on and when are we going to hear the absolute truth from the Chariot.
Dear shivsena Bhai,
The PBKs have recognized the founder of advanced knowledge as Prajapita so they regard themselves as PBKs. Does the soul of Ram need to hammer the PBKs that He is Prajapita. I came to advanced knowledge based on The Knowledge itself and realized that Father Shiva is residing in Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. Did you come to advanced knowledge after being told by Baba Virendra Dev Dixit that he is prajapita? What sort of children are we if we become PBKs based on someone telling that he is prajapita and not to become PBKs based on knowledge.
and no one has the courage to ask how long this game of confusion will go on and when are we going to hear the absolute truth from the Chariot.
I have heard few PBKs asking Baba when this game will be over. Even there is a Murli point that says "if you ask when destruction is going take place, it means that you want ShivBaba to leave."
For anyone to be called a true PBK, the following criteria needs to be fulfilled. First, anyone who calls himself a PBK in real life, then he should see every soul (in male body) as Brother (with no hostility whatsoever) and every soul (in female body) as Sister (with no lust whatsoever). Has anyone achieved this stage so far ????
Can you produce a Murli quote to corroborate your perspectives? As far as i know, it is always sung in the Sakar Murlis, "have a vision of brotherhood."
Secondly, Prajapita (Father of Humanity) has to be acknowledged by 108 souls and all those 108 souls should be united in one brotherhood under one Father, but we see no such thing in PBK family.
First the 8 souls will acknowledge Prajapita and not the 108. Also when the soul of Ram has attained his 100% nirakari stage, then the PBKs will be united as one family.
Finally, When Father of Humanity is immortal, then he should be giving the boon of immortality to all his children who give in writing and accept him as Father. But we see that many PBKs (young or old) are leaving their bodies and dying an untimely death, indicating that we all are mortals and not the children of immortal Father.
They gave in writing and has accepted him to be Prajapita, but just a small doubt, they leave His hand. So whose fault if they perish? Also i have heard few PBKs saying that "people are saying that He is not the appointed Chariot of Father Shiva" but still claim themselves as PBKs. I believe if one has complete faith in ShivBaba, then one will never perish. Also posting a Murli quote, MU 28/12/07 -- "Baba is sitting here. If you become displeased with ShivBaba, then you will perish."
Unless all the above three criteria are fulfilled, no soul can be called a true PBK but only on paper.So let each PBK decide whether he is a PBK in real life at present or only on paper.I also know that only when Ramshivbaba takes complete control of this body then PBKs will be born numberwise, so if i call myself and all PBKs, as PBKs on paper, then what is wrong with that.
There is no question of being a PBK on paper only. It is to be or don't be. there is no 50/50.To become a PBK only on paper, it denotes that one doesn't have complete faith in that personality who will become Prajapita. To become a PBK after the soul fo Ram becomes practically Prajapita, then there is no difference between you and the others who are waiting for events to emerge practically so that they become His followers. A real PBK acknowledges himself as PBK based on knowledge and not for practical events to surface.
Also i would like to know who is the soul who takes nischay patra from PBKs???? Is it the soul of Ram or is it the soul of Krishna!! (since God bindi ShivBaba does not need to take any letter of faith from his soul conscious children).
I believe it is the soul of Ram who takes nischay patra since the soul of Krishna doesn't have the thought of doing so during his era. Only an intelligent soul knows how to take precaution.
Om Shanti -- indie.