kumar28061972 wrote:This would be really funny. The thief after getting caught, saying ... OK, now I will divulge how much theft I have done, but won't be able to give the stolen things back.
Sadly, I tend to agree ... and when I think of cases like Ranjana Patel and her parents ...
BOTH of their children were BKs and BOTH committed suicide leaving the parent childless ... I think to myself, "what did the wonderfully compassionate and enlightened Brahma Kumaris do to fix that situation?". Mrs and Mr Patel are now both in the 70s and facing their final years and death ... who is going to look after them? The BKs with their multi-millions?
Ranjana and Sharad Patel's deaths WERE a cost of the BKWSU empire building (
she was a surrendered Sister and unpaid handmaiden to Dadi Janki and Jayanti Kirpalani at the beginning of Western service). Are they paying for their costs and will they, as Kumar says, pay back all that they have lied, cheated and stolen their way through?
The answer is no. They shrug it off, blame the victim, and carry on business as usual. "
You failed, you are a "weak brick" ... go and die".
This is the ethical problem I have with your position, Arbit. You do not seem to understand that, in essence, the good bit you are talking about is just PR, advertising, a facade ... and the stuff we are dredging out of the darkness ...
the shadow of the BKs ... are the roots and core of it.
And my position is to keep coming back to the ethics of it all. I promise you, the BKs pretty much avoided talk of the word until we started banging on about it ... you cannot make an Age of Truth out of Lies.
Back in the 1980s, when I became a BK, I will admit that the religion inspired me to look up the world "virtue" in the dictionary to work out what it meant and try and live an idealised life. Of course, the idea of being virtuous is not new and although it is a common theme in your posts that "no one told me how", my response would be that, basically, you did not study deep enough elsewhere.
However, what I discovered was that the code of living or lifestyle that the BKs teach do not prepare you or advantage you in the real world. They are primarily about fitting in to the BK world, e.g. not causing bad PR for the cult, not questioning or challenging the leadership, sticking to the "corporate image" of the BKWSU etc.
I cannot even say they are about progressing in the BK world because they don't really allow or encourage progression, e.g. all the top seats are taking and seniority is largely based just on age and how long you have stuck the cult out rather than one's intelligence, integrity, kindness, compassion etc, e.g. I have seen Dadi Janki do some very stupid, ugly and questionable things and others have reported her acting extremely irrationally or unstably ... and yet no one questions her status as "One of the 8". No one is allowed to challenged her and those that come anywhere near it are treated badly.
Indeed, I can even go as far to say that the way of life the BKs teach DISADVANTAGES one in the real world. It does not prepare one at all for life ... it prepares one for DESTRUCTION. Possibly an imaginary Destruction.
OK, Janki Kirpalani's just a frail old lady now, so I won't make a strong criticism of her but I will criticise the system that worships her and put her up along side Mother Teresa or Lakshmi etc. Who turns her image ... against the very teachings they make ... into a business and exploits people religious sentiment and superstitions.
The problem is, even if you have managed to find a tiny niche within the BKWSU empire that does no harm to others ... and you do not harm to others ... the entire machine - the great combine harvester of the BKWSU - is causing harm to others. It is breaking up families, it is causing suicides, it is robbing the poor and properties, it is consuming vast amounts of money and spending it MOSTLY on just advertising itself.
I asked you to tell me how much money the BKWSU has and how much it takes in every year so we can judge how much "good" it does. You cannot tell me, can you? They won't tell you, will they?
Even if you give your life to them, they won't be open and honest back to you, will they? They'll keep secrets from you and 100,000s of others and manipulate them into surrendering themselves.
This is why I cannot recommend the BKWSU to anyone and why I have dedicated part of my life to warning people about them ... and being a pain in the ass exposing them.