Hi Sweetchill,
First of all apologies for not writing this response sooner. The conversation has moved on and I have no wish to drag it backwards. But for the record I should attend to the outstanding matters.
What truth, exactly, has eromain "exposed"?
If you read my report properly it is obvious that what has been exposed is the awful negligence of the responsible Seniors since the original events. They let children continue to go to Madhuban whilst doing nothing about a pedophile there. And as child T pointed out to me only two years ago the pedophile Madhubaniwasi could still be there.
Whilst assuring me that they had done everything they could your Seniors had pointedly avoided talking to the two witnesses who could have identified him. Whilst assuring me that they were doing everything they could they were telling Janki Foundation patrons who had heard of the scandal that it was a taxi driver that had committed the Madhuban crimes.
These people you love and who you want to portray as victims of harassment by me demonstrated two and only two concerns in this whole episode: They wanted to protect their personal positions in the organization and they wanted to protect the image of the organization. They did not demonstrate to me any culpability or regret for decades of inaction. They lied when it suited them and distorted the truths of others at will. They have not instituted child protection policies in good faith and I for one believe and have very good evidence to confirm that child welfare remains a serious failing in your organization.
you've been pretty desperate to find more examples of child abuse, indeed WANTED to find them
Only someone who has never heard a case of child abuse first hand would write such a thing. Contrary to your assumptions I have received information about all sorts of abuse -child-sexual and otherwise which I have not publicised. Because of my report I have been contacted about all manner of incidents, some of which have led to legal proceeding and many which haven’t but probably should. That you tell yourself there have only been two cases of child abuse is, frankly, pathetic. Go and ask Jayanti and Dadi if there have only been two cases of child abuse. You like trying to ask us lots of questions. Go and ask them a few. Oh and please let us know how you get on.
You clearly don’t know a thing about the underbelly of your organization. Ignorance is bliss. Fine, that is your choice. People like me and the members of this forum feel a responsibility to warn people, but if you personally want to ignore the warnings good luck to you. But to attack what is going on here so casually and to be so lazy with your words and your approach is a mistake I hope you will come to appreciate sooner or later. I personally really wish this forum existed 20 years ago. And ten years from now you’ll probably discover that we did actually have something to offer you. We’ve been where you are now, but you have not (yet) been where we are. Hopefully you never will. But statistically speaking, given that 90% of BKs leave, you probably will.
It was ten years after having left that I began to find out more about the true morality of the top BKs than I found out in 14 years of being in it. And it was the child abuse stuff and my dealings with the Seniors over it that gave me an insight you clearly haven’t had. There is a great deal of material I did not publish in my report but I there is enough there to justify the disappointment and distaste I now feel for the BK leadership. To take statements made by me at the end of this journey and to use them to characterize my state at the beginning is outrightly dishonest of you. I didn’t say a bad word about the BKs for some 15 years after I left and now when I have you use it to prove I was all bitter and twisted all along. What rubbish.
You have yet to confirm to me that you feel your motives are entirely honourable
You keep asking me about honorable motives: I haven’t answered so far for two reasons, firstly, my motives are stated in my report and, secondly, I do not think it is an honest question given you have clearly already made your mind up. Nevertheless, for the record, yes, my intentions were entirely honourable.
I am extremely proud of my work and I believe I did a lot of good. Although far, far less than I hoped. I shared some information that people were entitled to know and that was kept from them in a shameful way. I did this so that future children in your care would enjoy better protection. This aim, so far has not been achieved. But the fact that more wasn’t achieved is not for want of trying on my part. Anyone who came out of it looking bad did so not because of my actions but theirs, and anyone who is not prepared to be publicly accountable should not presume to care for other people’s children.
You are required by your God to view me as morally and spiritually inferior to the likes of you. As you say you are not saying I am a bad person. You do not need to. To the extent you are a BK you are required to view me as such. According to your religion I have betrayed God and returned to being a devil. Any such double Shudra like me who thinks they are doing good is deluding themselves. How could my intentions towards God and his holy angels be anything but riddled with vice? Where is the Murli where your God gives any credit to anyone leaving Gyan because of his conscience or some other virtuous reason? Given this I cannot take your question too seriously. You are either a very poor BK or you are being disingenuous.
Well, you are welcome to such attitudes. In reality us devils have our virtues still and we are even occasionally capable of acting upon them. Open your eyes, “impure” people do wonderful acts of kindness every day. I tried to help everyone concerned – the children, their families and, yes, the BKs. Anyone who thinks that your movement is served by keeping these ongoing failings hidden is much less of a friend to it than I have been. To say my work has done some good but to insult me in the same breath is pure hypocrisy. How hypocritical to accept the help and to slag off the giver.
Your religion does not exist for its leaders, it is supposed to be the other way round. These supposed paragons of egolessness and virtue should be the first to welcome help whoever it comes from. But note how it is me the devil who has got the humility to turn up here and answer every half baked criticism no matter how shoddily put, why? Because, riddled as I am with ego I still believe in accountability. Your near perfect egoless angel leaders have never felt that they owed everyone (or indeed anyone – including the victims) an account of their appalling behaviour. Well, good luck to them and to you, I’d rather follow my own conscience than aspire to such incomprehensible heights of virtue.