bansy wrote:Thus subtle and corporal punishments will happen during the other 4900 years also.
I don't know about this whole business ... I am wondering ... Now, it is not just Brahmins or Hindus that talk about Dharamraj. Similar stories comes up in Christianity, Tibetan Buddhism ... other religions. Does that suggest souls of all religions are processed in some way, come the return to Paramdham? Could it be that what is thought to be "Dharamraj" is not the facing of a being but the turmoil and visions in the mind of the soul as it is pulled involuntarily towards the seed stage as it enters the Soul World. Like all the dirt coming out of the clothes during the spin cycle of a washing machine. Another question to ask here is how are the souls all pulled up and out of the physical world to experience this when we presume it must largely be involuntarily.
My guess is that "punishment" here is some sort of processing, the "camel being dragged through the eye of the needle" to have all the extra baggage stripped off it. And the experience in the future would be the ramifications of one's actions but not punishment as such. If it is all true.
But, as ever, I find the messages through Lekhraj Kirpalani lacking in depth and precision. Does he mean BB being strict with the children in the physical when he was alive, they used to hold little "courts" to address complaints of the followers in the Om Mandali. He uses the present tense, "Now, you suffer punishment ..." not, "In the future you will suffer ...". Surely, the corporeal punishment is just karma? To which I would add, the return of bad actions are worse if you KNOW that those actions are bad via Gyan and yet still do them.
arjun wrote:It is also possible that someone may have become an ex-BK because of such violations of Shrimat by the souls who may physically claim to be Baba's children but behave worse than Ex-BKs/Non-BKs.
One of the biggest problems of living outside of a Brahmin society, and this will apply to many PBKs as well, is that one's entire social environment has a different set of values to oneself. In theory, living with a BK society means that all your contacts share the same set of values largely based on the Murli, Sanatam Dharma but to some degree on the unwritten rules of BK Brahmin life. Stepping outside, the soul is confronted with a very different playing field where happiness is sorrow and sorrow is happiness. For examples, to have a relationship is to give happiness to another, not refuse a relationship is to cause unhappiness; honesty and integrity might be considered trouble making and so on. Being "Good" is a weakness and will lead one to being abused; being hard and selfish is rewarded with position. In such an environment, it is often quite difficult to know what is good or bad karma.
There is a general principle that the higher you climb, the harder the punishments are because with position comes responsibility ... but how are the calculation made? A senior BK that exploits another is bound to suffer more but has still also made their own positive efforts. They used to tell us that if the Seniors did anything worng their actions would be taken care of by Baba ... wishful thinking?