Would Jesus Have Been a BK or Remained a BK?

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Would Jesus Have Been a BK or Remained a BK?

Post29 Dec 2018

The BKs seem to have limited information on a soul who is one of the super-stars or super-souls even in their 5000 years cycle. When quantitatively comparing the content of the BK data bank of information with scholarly sources on a soul instrumental in the formation of a politico-religious dynasty of approximating half of the BK Kalpa, the BKs information is the needle in a haystack of data from esoteric and scholarly sources (McCannon, 2010). A meta-analysis is possible (Craffert, 2012; Sheehan, 2014).

In the BK knowledge bank, Jesus is the medium for the Christ soul analogous to the Supreme descending into the body of Dada Lekraj, with some differences. One being the phenomenon in which one the Christ Soul or Holy Spirit has interacted with the Jesus soul it will re-incarnate into like other souls, playing important roles in maintaining the Christian dynasty while undergoing degradation of spiritual entropy like other souls.

The data on Jesus in the BK philosophy is sparse and only in limited ways corroborate historical evidence and evidence from esoteric sources. One other bit of data from the BK paradigm is the idea that the Jesus soul would become a BK. If the Jesus soul has become a BK, would the entity still remain in Gyan? Most likely, a soul with such an illustrious past (Belisle, 2018) would question many of the components of the BK teachings and sooner than later separate itself from teachings, which are the elementary ABCs of spirituality. Due to past life experiences of travels to India as Issa, the entity would have a temporary fascination with BK Gyan (Atlantis Rising, 2006).

Like Siddhartha, historical evidence indicates that Jesus had royal heritage and was most likely a pharaoh (American Empire 39, 2011). The Association for Research and Enlightenment founded by Edgar Cayce decades before the BK organization has demonstrated that the prior to the role inaccurately described in the Pauline Bible, the following were roles played by the Master:
    Amilius;
    Adam;
    Enoch;
    Thoth or Hermes;
    Melchizedek;
    Joseph of Egypt; Joshua;
    Asaph; and
    Zend, the Father of Zoroaster.
The ARE has a record of consistency and reliability of their predictions and corroborations of information with archeological and historical evidence. Though the historical and archeological analyses and interpretations of Ellis (Eastwood, 2016) provide reliable demonstrations of the pharaonic roots of Jesus, his claims of the exile of Jesus in England by the Romans can be disputed using historical sources showing Jesus being resuscitated medically after the crucifixion and his escape to India through Damascus (Ischariot, 2014).

The BKs claim that Lekraj was the Adam or the world, while the ARE and other sources have indicated that Jesus was Adam (Belisle, 2018; Near-Death Experiences and the After Life, 2017). There is also evidence demonstrating that Jesus survived the crucifixion and returned to India, where he lived and taught until his transition at the age of approximately 110 years (Prophet, 1987). His birth and survival of the crucifixion was assisted according to some sources by extraterrestrial entities known Pleiadian ETs (Ischariot, 2014). In the Holy Bible, the Pleiadian ETs have been depicted as angels (OOWK Media, 2018).

As a star seed (DNA Activation., 2017; Higher Self, 2017) or blue ray person, it is highly likely that the soul playing the role of Jesus 2000 plus years ago, would have made contact with the BKs and would have left the organization. The entity would be sensitive to see the contradictions in BK philosophy and armed with the attributes of a star seed or blue ray person advance way beyond the basic ABCs of the BKs.

References

American Empire 39. (2011, January 14). Ralph Ellis - King Solomon , Hiram Abiff & Cleopatra to Christ - Red Ice. [Video File]. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BZMNhe0j4

Atlantis Rising. (2006, Sept/Oct). Did Jesus visit India? New research tracks his missing years to the Far East. Atlantis Rising Magazine, 59. Retrieved from https://atlantisrisingmagazine.com/arti ... sit-india/

Belisle, P. (2018, January). Edgar Cayce on the past lives of Jesus - Patrick Belisle at the Cayce Forum, January 31, 2018. [Video File]. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=6nVC6Zu5MS0

Craffert, P. F. (2012). Caretakers, critics, and comparativists: A Meta-Analysis of historical Jesus research. Journal of the Study of Religion, 25(2), 111-135. https://www.jstor.org/stable/24798427

DNA Activation. (2017, September 6). 20 Signs that you’re a powerful starseed in a world you don’t belong. [Video File]. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7D_IrAYdSQ

Eastwood, V. (2016). The real Jesus was a rich warrior king! Ralph Ellis. [Video File]. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0giFVgbAXY

Higher Self. (2017, March 2). Starseed symptoms due to awakening and DNA activation.
[Video File]. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nvLoKk2FRc

Ischariot, J. (2014, January 1). The Talmud of Jmmanuel.pdf (PDFy mirror). Available at https://archive.org/details/pdfy-UgyOJYUQHLjjkzlT

McCannon, T. (2010). Jesus. The explosive story of the 30 lost years and the ancient mystery religions. Charlottesville, VA: Hampton Roads. Available at https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Explosive- ... 1571746072

Near-Death Experiences and the After Life. (2017). Edgar Cayce on the reincarnation past lives of Jesus Christ. Retrieved from https://www.near-death.com/reincarnatio ... s.html#top

OOWK Media. (2018, April). Mary, mother of Jesus was Pleiadian !!! [Video File]. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKiCddpSVE

Prophet, E.C. (1987). The lost years of Jesus. Gardiner, MT: Summit University Press. Available at https://www.amazon.com/

Sheehan, T. (2014, January 18). Thomas Sheehan: The continuing education course on the historical Jesus. Stanford Continuing Studies Program. Retrieved from https://biblicalstudiesonline.wordpress ... cal-jesus/
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Re: Would Jesus Have Been a BK or Remained a BK?

Post29 Dec 2018

I don't know when, precisely, the BKs developed the idea of Christ being a separate soul from Jesus as they now believe.

However, bear in mind that for the first 20 odd years of their cult, they believed that Lekhraj Kirpalani was God himself and had no alternative 'god spirit' within him.

Therefore it could only have been after 1955/56 (around the time they developed the idea that Lekhraj Kirpalani was not God but was just a "Chariot" and had "God" inside him) that they could have developed the idea of a Jesus as a "Chariot" with the Christ soul inside him. If you look at the early versions of The Tree (of humanity), the 5 main prophet souls are merely referred to as "Divine Fathers", as Lekhraj Kirpalani was.

Perhaps it only developed as the first Western BKs arrive in the 1970s and started asking questions as an useful explanation to shut them up? I don't know. Part of BKism is a sort of undocumented 'folklore' element made up by followers to comfort and appease themselves and, ditto, so is part of the later teachings, the Avyakt Murlis, in which Christ is given an elevated status above the other prophet souls.

Why?

Yes, the - as best as I know - folklore version is that Jesus was an lowly, poor performing, inattentive and indisciplined BK who took a few births in their exclusive heaven before reincarnating a number of times before he was possessed by the "Christ soul" during its first birth 500 or 600 odd years later.

In essence, all BKs consider themselves and their leaders to be *much* higher spiritually than Jesus and Christ look down upon him as being underdeveloped ... in their terms, slightly more than 50% less "spiritual" in Jesus's cases, and more than 50% less "spiritual" in the case of the Christ.

In the old days, many Western BKs experienced a fantasy/panic at the thought that they might be the "Jesus soul" or something similar and, yes, according to BKism Jesus would have not been able to follow strict BKism and left.

But can such stuff really be discussed "academically" ... and would not "God" have a better understanding if there really was actually one, and the BKs' one really was it?

The funny thing is, the BKs really put down *both* their god spirit *and* their originally guru Lekhraj Kirpalani portraying them as sort of "buddhus" or simpletons who know nothing about history and religion. Note, Lekhraj Kirpalani did not even know where Judaism fitted in to The Tree of Humanity, and thought that Islam and Mohammedism were different ... and where was poor old Moses in his equation?

File along with debating "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin".

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Post30 Dec 2018

Not to mention completely ignoring a quarter or more of the world’s population, with no mention of the oriental religions of Tao, Confucianism, Shinto, the various religions of Africa including West African and Afro-American Voodoo (originally Vodun - meaning spirit), the various indigenous peoples of North, Central and South America, Australia, Polynesians ...
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Re: Would Jesus Have Been a BK or Remained a BK?

Post30 Dec 2018

There's a saying in politics that people get the politicians they deserve, as in a nation's politicians are a reflection of the nature of the people who elect them (hello Donald Trump).

With regards to religion, perhaps we should modify that to something like, "people imagine the prophets as they would want them to be (or want to be themselves)"?

In the 1930s, some Sindi girls and old ladies got a handsome, rich middle aged man as their 'wish fulfilment' god. You are imagining an enlightened Christ to be a well travelled, esoteric African (Black) Pharaoh. Others reject a personal god and instead embrace a more abstract, intellectual, naturalistic concept of spirituality. The hippie generation imagined a hippie rebel, esoteric yogi Christ, the Orthodox Jews a troublesome heretics and so on ... clearly the concept of the man is 99.99% projection?

If it is true that we "make our gods in our own image", then do we not remake our own god men to our own ideals as well? As in, they are archetypes for us, important to each of us at the time we imagine them, and we project onto them who we would like to be.

did not the idea of a "Black Jesus" and Black Pharoahs arise at the same time as Black Power and the Civil Rights movement within the USA? Wasn't it part-politics, part-spiritual need for Black Americans to imagine their god to be something other than the blue eyed, blonde haired, Charles Heston Jesus of White America?

(I note how very few female gods and god women there have been allowed in areas subjects to the Abrahmanic religions for the last 2,000 years).

Why then may I ask is Jesus Christ in anyway important to you as a spiritual archetype on a personal level today?

From the accounts in early BK books, the BK "Tree of Humanity" lesson only arose after one of the original Brothers saw Gandhi/Independence movement use an image of a tree for their philosophy, and the BKs adopted the idea for themselves. And, of course, they had to inflate their own importance egotistically by putting themselves at the very root and top of it.

I am pretty sure their Jesus was only a 'look good' appeasement for Christian and Western BKs and they and their god knows know thing about the historical Jesus/Jesuses at all and clarified nothing about his existence or not.

Lekhraj Kirpalani and the elders appear to be have been more influenced by Islam in this department, merely adding something into their syncretic mix, as a response to a very simplistic level of discussion about Jesus, historical or not.
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Post30 Dec 2018

What makes me sick is how the BKs sit down with all the multi-faith groups hiding their real thoughts about all the other religion's gods and leaders.

Truth be, the BKs have very, very, very, very little to no knowledge of *any* forms of esotericism ... and *zero* interest in any "worldly" history of religions, or becoming part of the discussion.

As far as I know, they always refused to allow their spirit mediums to get into answering or clarifying any of this kind of stuff, no doubt in order to avoid any controversy and being proven fallible.

All they are interested in is faking and hiding their own history, presumably on the grounds of, "well, if other religions did it, so too can we".

Does anyone know of any instances where they or their god spirit has gotten involved in such stuff?

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Re: Would Jesus Have Been a BK or Remained a BK?

Post31 Dec 2018

Ex-I and Pink,

I thank you for your invaluable and extensive responses to my post. In a scientific investigation, questions are as important or sometimes more important than the answers. Some of the questions you have asked are important in the formulation of hypotheses for exploration by experimental approaches. The BKs in-doors, have had a condescending attitude to other religions, relegating them to forms of bakti, without any serious scholarship. The Avyakt Murlis have only in a few sente