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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.770, Audio Cassette No.1256, dated 29.09.07, at Nagpur

Clarification of Murli dated 21.01.68 (for BKs)

Ref. No.VCD*.
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Omshanti. The Vani of morning class dated 21st January, 1968 was going on. At the end of the middle portion of the first page the matter being narrated was – those who tread (the path of knowledge) in a first class way will be said to be under the influence of Jupiter (brihaspati ki dasha). Whose influence (dasha)? Brihaspati’s influence. He is also called vrikshapati. It means that the one, who is the seed of the entire tree, will belong to which dynasty (vansh)? He will belong to the Sun Dynasty because the Father, the Sun of Knowledge Himself comes in this world and gives knowledge first of all and the person whom He gives knowledge is considered to be the first among all planets. He is called – Vrikshapati or Brihaspati. There are nine planets, isn’t it? They are numberwise. It is considered that there are nine categories of Brahmins. Those categories were also started by 9 sages (rishis). Only the one who is pure is said to be a rishi and even in purity there are numberwise grades. The first class children are under the influence of the numberone grade among them.

It has been said – it would be certainly said to be the influence of Jupiter (Brihaspati); then suddenly the storm of Maya comes. When there is the influence of Jupiter, then why do the storms of Maya come suddenly? It will also be said to be the karmic accounts of one’s past births. As was the company of the elevated or degraded souls in the 63 births, so is their influence. So, even here in the shooting period, this reel keeps rotating. Suddenly, the dasha (influence) changes, but who is instrumental in changing this dasha? Why does this dasha change suddenly? Who is responsible for this? Banee banaayee ban rahee ab kachu ban-ni naay (Whatever has been pre-determined is being enacted. Nothing new is to be enacted). We ourselves have performed actions in 63 births and we ourselves have changed the colour of company. So, whoever has changed the colour of company in whatever form, and have got coloured by the company, so is the influence (dasha). So, suddenly the storm of Maya comes. When one is in the influence of the first planet among the 9 planets, then one treads (the path of knowledge) in a first class way, and after that when one gets coloured by the company of the remaining eight planets, which are the planets of descending celestial degrees or numberwise ascending celestial degrees, Maya keeps catching.

When the storm emerges, then [they] say – Baba, the intoxication of our joy seems to be a little less. What is meant by ‘a little less’? It means that the influence/stage (dasha) has not fallen very much. It has not become the influence/stage (dasha) of the lowermost planet. One has slipped to a little lower stage. It happens like that in the earnings also. In the income also the stage (dasha) keeps changing and this is an imperishable income. In this also the stages (dasha) change. When the stages (dasha) change, when Maya makes us fall completely, then some write - Baba we have blackened our face. How does a face become fair and how does a face become dark/black? The face becomes fair at the beginning of the Golden Age, when one becomes completely pure and the face becomes black in the dark Iron Age. When the influence (dasha) the last planet i.e. Rahu is cast on everyone . Then in the shooting period, as and when, whoever keeps ataining the stage of or keeps getting influenced by whichever planet, the influence/fate (dasha) changes in the same way. Then they say – Baba, pardon us. We have blackened our face. The Father would say – the lowermost planet has influenced you. Which is the lowest planet? There is an influence of Rahu.

There is the Sun Dynasty. From the sun, his dynasty emerges. After that, which is the second number planet? After the Sun is the Moon and Rahu swallows/influences even the Moon. When does he influence? When moon becomes complete or is about to become (complete), then on the day of no-moon (amavasya) Maya eclipses. When the moon is crooked, (Maya) does not eclipse. It eclipses the complete moon. It means that whether it is those who belong to the Sun Dynasty (Suryavanshi), whether it is those who belong to the Moon Dynasty (Chandravanshi), or to any other dynasty; when they become stronger (rustom), then Maya catches them in a stronger way . Except the Suryavanshis, the company of all others makes us meet Maya.

Indulging in lust means the influence (dasha) of Rahu. It makes us fall from the 5th floor and now at the end of the Iron Age, there is an influence (dasha) of Rahu on the entire world. Why? Why is the entire world under the influence (dasha) of Rahu? It is because except one Sun of Knowledge, the colour of the company of all others causes downfall. Nobody uplifts. Among the 9 planets, it is only the Sun – ‘the Sun of Knowledge Shiv’ who enters into the guru of the deities, the sadguru. The colour of his company is certainly unique. Good company puts one across and bad company drowns one. All other planets are numberwise and the influence (dasha) of all of them causes downfall to some extent or the other. That is why the Father says – one ShivBaba and none else.

First of all, you experience happiness. What? In the beginning of the Golden Age, first of all, you experience complete happiness then, under whose influence will you be? You come under the influence (dasha) of vrikshapati. You come. Who does ‘you’ refer to? They , who come in the list of those who cause defamation of the Sadguru and do not achieve the destination, are not called ‘you’. They become instrumental in causing defamation of the Sadguru in their effort-making life. So, what will be their fate in the end? Will they achieve the accommodation or will they become homeless (beghar)? They will not be able to become [the children] of God and they will leave the Father and go. How many will remain? Those who will be under the influence (dasha) of one vrikshapati in the end and in the beginning of the world , the ones who will live under the canopy (chatrachaya) of one and will not be under the canopy of anyone else. All of them will be influenced by one. Influenced means praja [subject]. Whose praja? They will be included in the praja (subjects) of that highest on high one, who becomes the highest on high, who is the master of the world. Those children have been addressed as ‘you’.

‘You’ means those who study The Knowledge sitting face to face (sanmukh). There are two meanings of sanmukh too. For namesake someone may be sitting face to face. Internally they are full of anger (bukhaar). They are full of contradiction/paradox (virodhabhaas). Then will they be said to be sitting face to face (sanmukh) in an unlimited sense or will they be said to be sitting with their faces turned away (vimukh)? They will also be called vimukh. The ones who have opposite thoughts while sitting face to face, they become even more of an opposite intellect (to the Father) and get destroyed (vipreetbuddhi vinashyanti) by going in the outside world and they become instrumental in causing defamation of the sadguru. So, now the entire world is under the influence of Rahu and you children who are sitting face to face are under the influence of Jupiter (Brihaspati). Then they too are numberwise. Some are under the 100 percent influence of one Father whereas some are influenced (by the Father) in percentage. The vrikshapati God sits and teaches you children
...(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. The words in brackets are words added by the translator for better understanding of the translation in English.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD** No.770, Audio Cassette No.1256, dated 29.09.07, at Nagpur

Clarification of Murli dated 21.01.68 (for BKs)

Ref. No.VCD**-770-Part-II-Eng.


... Which tree is this? Is it an incorporeal tree or is it a tree of corporeal human souls or is it a physical tree? Which tree is it? (Someone said – It is a tree of incorporeal souls) Who is the seed of The Tree of incorporeal souls and who is the seed of The Tree of human souls? [Someone said, Prajapita] And that incorporeal Shiv has come in Prajapita. Then he is called – 'Vrikshapati'. Then people come to know him that he is the vrikshapati. Prior to that, nobody even knows him. So, it has been said – Now God vrikshapati sits and teaches you. Who is called God? The one who has been termed as the lucky Chariot because of being the most fortunate one in the entire world.

The second page of the Vani dated 21st January, 1968. On the basis of their stage, children can understand themselves, under the influence of which planet are we? There are 9 planets. There are 9 sages. 9 clans emerge from them. 9 categories of Brahmins are said to be there and nine religions have been established in the world on the basis of those 9 categories. And there are 9 main religious founders of the 9 religions. So, now in the Confluence Age,the children can understand that – under whose influence are we? To whichever religion one belongs, he would accept the versions of (the person belonging to) that religion only and he will not accept the versions of anyone else. Even if God Himself descends (in front of them), if one belongs to other religion, then he will not accept even the versions of God.

So, you can understand - are we under the influence of vrikshapati, under the influence of Rahu or under the influence of which planet? Have we found a place in Baba’s heart or not? If we are in Baba’s heart, then whose influence will it be called? In that case, it would be said – influence (dasha) of vrikshapati. They know – this Baba alone will occupy the throne and we are in Baba’s heart. When we have climbed the Father’s heart; then we will certainly sit on the Father’s throne as well. Here in the Confluence (Age) it is the heart throne and there in the new world it will be the throne of kingship. Some feel – although we are the children, (although) we are definitely the children of the Father, (although) we are certainly Suryavanshis, but we have not climbed on to Father’s heart. We are not able to fullfil the hopes of the Father’s heart which he has pinned on us.

.....So they will realize that we are not sitting on the heart throne. They are indeed the children, they can understand. It means that they will definitely achieve the position of Suryavanshi praja [subjects in the sun dynasty], but they will not perform any task. The expectation that God Father has from the children– the children should become serviceable, they should bring fame to the Father, they do not perform that task and show. Give them food and water, but they will not perform any task. They live in Father’s house. They even study everyday in the Father’s house, they eat, they drink. I shall eat with you, I shall play with you, and I shall remain in your company in every breath. They do everything. Everything is available to them, but they are unable to do the Godly service that they should do. Therefore, what will they become in the end? They will become servants in the end.

If they do not work hard here while living under the protection (chatrachaya) of the Father, then they will have to work hard there. What? In the eyes of the world, they appear to have become the children of the Father. We have become the children of God or that we have surrendered, we have completely surrendered, but internally they feel – we eat, we drink, we sleep, but we are of no use to the Father. So, what will be its result? What will be its result there? They will have to work hard there. Where? In the Golden Age? Will there be labour in the Golden Age? All the labour is done by the nature. So, it is not the question of the Golden Age or the Silver Age. To which time does it pertain? One will have to work very hard in the 63 births of the Copper Age and the Iron Age.

I will immediately ask – how many (souls) have you made equal to yourself? Brahmani works hard to bring many (here). Brahmani thinks that – if I take them in front of the Father, then the Father will refresh them because the Father is a Supreme Teacher, isn’t He? First of all is the supreme knowledgeful God and at the second number is this one. Who? Who used to be pointed out by saying ‘this one’? A hint used to be given about Brahma. At the first number is the Supreme knowledgeful. When will one be called knowledgeful? If he is in the form of a point, if He is just a point, whose name is Shiv, then will someone call him knowledgeful or is He called the ocean of knowledge, knowledgeful when He enters the corporeal medium? When He enters the corporeal, when He narrates The Knowledge, then He is called knowledgeful and in the second number is – this Brahma. Brahma means? Dada Lekhraj, whose 84th birth is ‘Brahma’, the one who shows knowledge in his inculcations (dharana). The Knowledge is not (just) in words. Who speaks through him? The words are of the point of light Shiv. That is why He just shows inculcation/assimilation (of virtues). The inculcation of a senior mother in Brahma. Then, when does He come in the form of words?

There is one such form too, whom nobody can confront in the matter of speech. Is that (form) a male deity (devtaa) or a female deity (devi)? (Someone said – she is a devi) Which devi is it? ‘Vaak Devi’. Devi of ‘Vaak’, i.e. speech. What is the name? Jagdamba Saraswati. When the same Jagdamba becomes degraded, when she becomes a destroyer (sanhaar kaarini), then her tongue is visible outside. There cannot be anyone sharper than her in words. She is also a mother. Just as there is the World Father (Jagadpita), similarly there is the Mother of the World and the form of Brahma, which is a male body, is not worshipped, but the soul which enters in the body of a mother, that body is worshipped. It is worshipped in the form of Jagdamba as well as in the form of a destroyer of demons, ‘Mahakali’. So, in the second number is this mother.

These are very wonderful matters. Human beings do not know even a single thing. They do not know even a single thing and they do not know only one thing. Which matter do they not know? Which special thing do they not know? There is one special matter which the human beings do not know. Earlier we children also did not know. (Someone said – God of Gita…..) Yes. They do not know that – how God comes and establishes the new world
...(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD*** No.770, Audio Cassette No.1256, dated 29.09.07, at Nagpur

Clarification of Murli dated 21.01.68 (for BKs)

Ref. No.VCD***-770-Part-III-Eng.


... The Golden Age is called the new world. It is an Age of truth. Who will establish the Age of truth? Arey, who will establish the kingdom of Ram? Ram himself will establish the kingdom of Ram. Who will establish the kingdom of Ravan? Ravan himself will establish the kingdom of Ravan. So, who will establish the Satyug, i.e. land of truth (sachkhand)? At the end of the Iron Age everyone becomes false. Not even a single person remains true. Then the Father comes. He is called Sat-Chit-Anand (true-living-blissful). He comes in living form. Does he come in a non-living thing or does He assume a living form? He comes in a living form. He gives joy, but what is His first virtue? It is truth. The Englishmen also say – God is truth. What is God? Truth is called God. There is no name or trace of falsehood and the truth alone is beneficial (kalyaankaari). Falsehood can never be beneficial. These are very wonderful matters.

The Father teaches Rajyog. So, whoever puts whatever questions to the Father, they certainly do not know anything at all. What? What is the result of those who ask the Father questions? Certainly they do not know anything at all. First of all, they do not know themselves. When we had not obtained knowledge, did we know anything? Did we possess a paththarbuddhi (stone-like intellect) or a paarasbuddhi (paaras-like intellect; paaras is believed to be a mythical stone which is said to convert iron into gold by mere touch)? We possessed a stone-like intellect. When the Father came, then the eye of knowledge, the third eye opened a little. Now we ask the Father questions. Then what does it prove? It proves that they have not understood the Father at all. Father is the Father of the entire world. He is called ‘Khuda’. So, does He narrate everything on his own (khud) or do you know anything? What questions will you put to the Father? If you explain…. If you explain anything to those who put questions, then how will it strike their intellect? Will it strike? If you explain, then it will not strike their intellect. It involves so much hard work (mehnat).

ShivBaba has come in the form of a karnighor Brahmin now. What kind of a Brahmin has He come as? What is this karnighor Brahmin? When someone dies, then whatever old belongings (of the deceased) are available are given to the karnighor Brahmin. What do the poor (children) have? They possess an old body in the 84th birth. The intellect is old and impure and the wealth is also the wealth of the degraded world earned through impure means. In the path of worship people give donations and perform noble acts in the name of God, don’t they? Now God is face to face.

In the path of worship is He face to face (sanmukh)? So, through whom do they do? They give donations indirectly for God through gurus, and now? Now He is face to face. So, what should be done? When He is face to face, then certainly those who do face to face will achieve more attainments or if someone does with the support of the Gurus, in spite of coming face to face, or if one remains influenced by the gurus, if one surrenders the body, if one surrenders the wealth, if one surrenders the time, if one surrenders the relatives of the body through the gurus, then what will be the difference in the attainments? Under whose protection (chatrachaya, i.e. canopy) will they be considered? They will be considered to be under the protection of the gurus. Then under whose influence will they be? Certainly one gets influenced by Rahu at some point of time.

Now you understand that – in the path of worship we used to do in the name of God. But God did not receive. Who used to receive? The gurus received it. Gurus used to invest the same as per their wisdom. Are the gurus swaarthi (selfish), will they think about the swa rath (own Chariot, i.e. body) first or are they equal to the parmaarthi (benefactor) Father? Father Shiv does not have His own Chariot at all, so how will He be selfish? Who are selfish? Sur, nar, muni sabkee yah reeti. Swaarth laagey karein sab preeti (It is the manner of the deities, men (human beings), sages, everyone. Everyone loves when there is a selfish motive.) Whether it is the deities, demons, sages & saints, religious fathers, everyone has his own Chariot. (When) The religious fathers come from the Soul World; they do not bring their Chariot. Do they? So, will they be called selfish or benefactor? (Someone said – benefactor) Benefactor?

In whichever body they enter, they develop attachment for it. Do they develop attachment or not? They develop attachment. They develop attachment and this disease of attachment brings about total ruination. If there was attachment towards any bodily being, whether it was in the Copper Age, whether it was in the Iron Age, whether it was in the Confluence Age, the disease of attachment does not allow one to progress in making efforts. So, in the path of worship, when one does in the name of God, how was its account maintained? How was it maintained? Alright, how was the account maintained? Was it good or was it bad? (Someone said – it used to be bad) It used to be bad. The world did not elevate. The world experienced downfall. The ones through whom (something) was given in the name of God also met with downfall. Harai shishya dhan, shok na harai. So guru ghor narak ma parai (The guru who does not liberate his disciples from sorrows, but usurps his wealth, goes to hell)

Many millionaires emerge in the path of knowledge. Will they emerge in the end or not? They will. Will God Father accept their millions and billions? (Someone said – No) He will not take; and now? Do the gurus, who are now sitting in between, take or not? They take. (Someone said – they take). So, those who take, does God become indebted because of those transactions or does the one who takes become indebted? The one from whom the wealth was taken and one could not cause benefit to him/her, then that soul will not be able to go to the Golden Age. Alright, if it comes in the second, third, fourth birth of the Golden Age, then will they become instrumental of degradation or of true salvation?

(Many said – degradation) Arey! They have reached the Golden Age, then why degradation? (Someone said – as per the goal….) Yes. They even say – if you give 3000 then you will come in the Silver Age. If they give 13000 you will come in the Golden Age. So, the ones possessing a Chariot are selfish and this Father does not have any selfish motive. So, here you give face to face to God and you get the returns. And in the path of worship you get returns for one birth and here he gives (you) for 21 births and on the basis of 21 births, there is an account of 63 births as well. So, that will not be called giving. Did you give or take? You took
...(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added by the translator in the brackets for better understanding of the translation.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD**** No.770, Audio Cassette No.1256, dated 29.09.07, at Nagpur

Clarification of Murli dated 21.01.68 (for BKs)

Ref. No.VCD****-770-Part-IV-Eng.


...…God is not poor (kangaal). Is God poor? (Someone said – No) No? Alright! Is He a millionaire, billionaire? When God comes, what does He bring with Him? (Someone said – knowledge) He brings knowledge! The one in whom He comes, is he poor or a lakhpati (owner of 1,00,000 rupees or more), millionaire, billionaire (at that time)? He is poor. So, the one in whom He comes, what would he be called? Is God poor or a millionaire? What will He be called? Arey! When is someone called poor or a millionaire, prosperous or poor? When one comes in a corporeal form. So, the corporeal medium in which He comes, when the Father gets revealed, is He in the form of poor or a prosperous person? (Someone said – poor) Is He poor? Arey! What is the property of the Father? The wealth of knowledge. These gems of knowledge will become your true gems, i.e as much The Knowledge in one’s intellect, so much richer one will become in the world. These are practical matters. So, is the one, who gives wealth, poor or the richest of the rich? (Everyone said – He is the richest one) So, it has been said – Eeshwar (God) is not a beggar. What has He been named? Eeshwar (God). 'Eesh' means the one who governs and ‘var’ means the one who governs in the most elevated manner.

At the most how many births are there? 84 births. In the first birth among the 84 births, whose kingdom exists? The kingdom of Narayan exists. Narayan alone is one such truly prosperous person, who has not been defamed in the scriptures. Everyone else has been defamed. So, will He be a giver or does He take from anyone? It means that the body in which He comes is also such an effort maker that he does not like to spread his palm in front of anyone or to seek at all. He is a giver. He is not the one who takes. He gives hundred times in return. This is also predetermined in the drama.

This is an unlimited drama which is pre-determined. Nobody knows this unlimited drama which is pre-determined. The history [&] geography of the world repeats accurately. What? Whichever soul has whatever part in whichever birth, that soul plays the same part in every Kalpa. Leave aside the matter of souls. Whichever atom exists in this world, the place from where it begins its cycle, after the completion of a Kalpa, it reaches the same place again. There will be mega-destruction (mahavinaash) of the world. Such a big upheaval (uthal-pathal) will take place. In this upheaval, whatever has come from wherever, it will reach the same place. It will start The Cycle afresh once again. So, everything is predetermined in the drama. The history and geography repeats accurately. Whosoever you see, i.e. whatever you see, everyone/everything has a part in the drama. It is not so that – there is a part (i.e. role) of only the living human souls, (or that) there is no part of the insects, spiders, flies and mosquitoes. They too have a part. (or that) Every particle of the soil you see does not have a part. It also has a part.

This should also be understood slowly. This matter cannot fit into anyone’s intellect at once. And the ones who explain are also numberwise. Those who understand less can explain less. Those who understand more can explain in more depth. Every one has his own stage. If an educated person gets a third class Brahmakumari, then she cannot respond completely to the questions of that educated person. So, because of that one (Brahmakumari), all the Brahmakumar-kumaris lose their reputation. What? There have also been other gurus in the world; they too narrated knowledge, they gave solutions to the questions. People used to become so happy with those gurus too. They are in fact false gurus and here you have found the true Father who teaches you. Someone may say – how can this be possible? So, it is like this – in the gatherings which are organized by the gurus; they do not permit anyone to raise questions in their gatherings, and what about the Father? The Father says – If one follows the path of knowledge properly, then one can get answers to all questions and He gives.

The Father is the ocean of knowledge. His knowledge is not bound in books. Those gurus who give answers to questions, do they give the answers by reading from the scriptures or do they give the answers without reading the scriptures? The scriptures and books are limited. What? There is a limit to that, and whatever God Father narrates does not have any limits. Just as the ocean is limitless; nobody in the world has been able to know its depth till date. No scientist could know how deep the ocean is. Similarly, for The Knowledge that God comes and gives, it is said – if you make the entire forest into pens, and if the entire ocean is made into ink and if one writes with it, even then The Knowledge will not finish. He is such an unlimited ocean of knowledge.

So, if a well-educated person comes in front of a Brahmakumari and if she is unable to give complete response, then all the Brahmakumar-kumaris will lose their reputation. They will say – they cannot even give complete reply. They will say – what do these Brahmakumar-kumaris explain? Then they will depart without understanding. The first impression becomes the last impression. There are many like this. And this is also pre-determined in the drama. Those who explain consider themselves to be very good, but it is only the Father and the unique children who can understand.

Baba had thought – He should keep on explaining to the children on Shivjayanti, how they should take out a rally (parikrama). What? In the path of worship, they organize rallies, don’t they? So, you children should also organize a rally. When did He come, what did He come and do? These people do not believe in the idols of deities. And you are establishing the deity religion. You believe, therefore you are establishing
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD***** No.770, Audio Cassette No.1256, dated 29.09.07, at Nagpur

Clarification of Murli dated 21.01.68 (for BKs)

Ref. No.VCD*****-770-Part-V-Eng
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... Now there are numerous religions. So, so many sects and subsects, branches and sub-branches and branches of branches have also emerged. Now The Tree has grown completely and the people belonging to all the branches & sub-branches, all the religions, all the sects and subsects (math-panth) are in their own intoxication. Nobody listens to anyone and they do not know anything. Now the Father has come; you have understood everything and you know everyone’s occupation. You know the loopholes of all the big personalities who have come in this world, of all the big personalities whose history exists.

Father has explained this also. What? It has been mentioned about Shankar in scriptures and in history, isn’t it? What has been mentioned? He is called ‘Dev-dev-Mahadev’ and people also consider him to be God. Then the Father says – Is Shankar God or a deity? He is a deity. He is not God. God is different and deity is different. Shiv is different and Shankar is different. In fact Shankar is also a soul, and Shiv is also a soul. Then what is the difference? He, i.e. ‘Shiv’ is beyond The Cycle of birth and death and that Shiv is so unique that when He enters in Shankar, when He narrates the unlimited knowledge, then what kind of a stage does Shankar also assume?

He assumes such an incorporeal (nirakari), viceless (nirvikari), egoless (nirahankari) stage that he too becomes as if he is beyond The Cycle of birth and death. Does he become detached in an unlimited form or in a limited form? (Someone said – in an unlimited form) What does it mean? All other human souls of the world pass through The Cycle of faith and faithlessness. They enter The Cycle of birth and death, but the one in whom God Shiv enters in a permanent manner, does not pass through The Cycle of birth and death, i.e. The Cycle of faith and faithlessness from the beginning to the end.

Shankar does not have a part. What does it mean? If he does not have a part, then why is he called ‘Har Har Mahadev’? Why is Mahadev called the one who takes away the sins? The Father replies – It is I who am ‘Har Har Mahadev’ too. Shankar is not the one who burns/reduces sins . If Shankar was the one who burns/reduces sins, then why would he sit in the remembrance? He is shown to be sitting in remembrance in the pictures, is he not? In whose remembrance is he sitting? Certainly he is sitting in the remembrance of Shiv, that is why in the old temples of Shiv, a memorial of Shiv, i.e. Shivling is shown in the center and next to it the idols of deities are shown all around. Among them the idol of Shankar is also shown in an important place, immersed in meditation. In whose remembrance is it sitting? Certainly it would be said that he is sitting in the remembrance of Father Shiv.

So, it is not that –Father Shiv will tell him. Whom?[Will tell] Shankar to sit and kill everyone. Does He say like this? No. It is said – what is famous in the path of worship? It is famous that as soon as Shankar opens his eyes, pralai (inundation of Earth) takes place. As soon as the third eye opens, the entire world gets inundated. What happens to the world of lust, anger, greed, attachment, and ego? It ends. The lustful , the wrathful , the greedy , those with attachment, the egotistic will not survive in this world. Who will survive? Who will survive? Only the deities, who become constant in the stage of consciousness of the self, those who become constant in the incorporeal soul conscious stage, those who possess a divine nature, will survive and the remaining people will get destroyed.

So, when Shankar opens his eyes, does he destroy everyone? No, it is not true that – there is any such third eye, from which the flame of destruction emerges and everyone gets burnt in it. They speak so much lies and so much lies have been shown in the pictures . Falsehood means just falsehood. Lies have been written in the Gita itself. When the words of God Himself have been made wrong, then everything else becomes wrong. Now you must think and churn only on this matter day and night. On which matter? Should Shiv Shankar Bholeynath be called God of Gita or should Krishna be called? Your victory lies in this one matter.

There is a difference of day and night (i.e. a world of difference) between the biography of the Father and the biography of the child. What? Who is the Father in an unlimited sense and who is the child in an unlimited sense? In a spiritual form who is the unlimited Father? ‘Shiv’ is the unlimited Father and ‘Shankar’ is the unlimited child in the form of soul consciousness and when there is a corporeal creation , then who is the Father of the human beings in the corporeal world? ‘Prajapita’ and who is his child? In the Confluence Age it will be said – The titleholder Prajapita Brahma. Then in the corporeal world in the Golden Age, who is the Father and who is the child? The seed is called the Father.

So, who is the corporeal seed of the human creation? Call him Prajapita, or call him Narayan it is one and the same. That is why it has been said – next to God is Krishna. Which Krishna? The Confluence-Aged Krishna. Next to God is Prajapita. Next to God is Narayan. So, are these different names of the same personality or are they different personalities? Personality is the same. Then look, in the scriptures, the name of the child has been inserted in place of the Father, (saying) that child Krishna narrated Gita. The Father says – you have become the greatest fool (mahaamoorkh). You do not understand even this much, as to who the God of Gita is. Achcha. Omshanti.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No. 779 Audio Cass.No.- 1265, dt.-10-10-07 at Bahalwa (Haryana)

Clarification of Murli dated 30-1-68

Part-I


Class dated 30th January, 1968. Everyone loves those who have divine virtues and those who have demoniac features,....they keep developing opposite intellect. Who will love those who do not have virtues at all? One loves someone only after understanding him. So, one should ask oneself – How much time do I do service? Do I do service through my virtues or do I do disservice through the vices? If I don’t do service then it would increase the burden (of debt) a lot. One must think that – I will keep becoming just a servant for 21 births. If I do not do service at all, then what inheritance will the unlimited Father give me? [They] will have to carry burden in front of those who perform the task of the Father here.

If someone has vices, then it is thought that – they do not have any virtues at all. There are such ones also. The company of such ones spoils very much. Here the children have to make efforts. What should they do here? They should not die for selfish ends (swaarth). Swa means one’s own. Rath means Chariot/body. One should not die for one’s own Chariot/body. What should one do? One should make efforts (purushaarth). This is a body-like abode (puri) and the soul which rests in it. It is called purush. It means that one has to do (the efforts) for the soul. Whatever we do for the body is for one birth; and the body is perishable. The soul is imperishable. So, whatever we do for the soul becomes an imperishable income for many births, especially here. It means where? In the Confluence Age. The manners are also taken into account. The one who gives happiness to everyone will certainly be dear to everyone.

Everyone tries to maintain a distance from the one who is wrathful. One should move away from the wrathful ones. Suppose the ghost (of anger) enters (someone), then one should run away (from him). Otherwise what would happen? The ghost will also enter us. One should never speak in front of the ghost. But it is observed that – one starts talking. By seeing each other the ghost enters everyone. The reports keep coming to Baba, isn’t it? So, one must explain – this ghost should not enter. It is better not to speak to this/such a person. One should not even have any greed.

All of you are vaanprasthi (the ones who have attained the age of retirement). Whether one is young or old, every one of you are vaanprasthi. Who? Who all are vaanprasthi? This one is not vaanprasthi, although he has become 60 years old. Who? Brahma. To whom was it said? To you all. ‘You all’ means? It was said for those whom [Baba] used to emerge in front and speak- You all are vaanprasthis. It means that you all have to attain such a stage here that – you should remain beyond speech. The body should also exist and you should go beyond the stage of speech/sounds in spite of having the body. So, you all are the ones who go beyond speech. This one is not (like that). What? (Someone said – It means Brahma Baba) Did he go beyond speech? (A Brother said – No) Did he become a resident of the Supreme Abode? (The Brother said – No) The body was left. You all are the ones who go beyond the stage of speech. But those who are the sinful souls will not be able to go…..

....What hint (ishara) has been given? Who take the form of ghosts & devils? Those who commit more sins have to go to the species of ghosts & devils. There are categories among them also. Some are angelic . Some are numberwise. The souls which commit sins, cannot go beyond speech (Vani) because there is a lot of burden of sins (vikarma) on them, isn’t there? Vikarma means? Vipreet karma (opposite actions). Opposite to what? They perform actions just opposite to the actions prescribed in the Shrimat. If one remains in the rememberance (of God) then the sins will also reduce to some extent. What should one remember? If one remembers the Father and the Shrimat of the Father, the one who is the highest Father, then the sins would also get reduced.

If there is anger etc. then it is understood that they do not remember at all. Whom? (Someone said – Baba) The Father who is the Father of the fathers. He is the one who plays the part in the form of Dharmaraj. He is the one who gives harsh punishment. If one remembers that – that Father has come, will one become angry? If the Father asks someone to do something and if one does not do it, then one gets hundred times punishment. What meaning would those who have studied basic knowledge infer from this? What meaning will they infer? If the Father asks to do some job and if one does not do it, then one gets hundred times punishment. What meaning will they infer out of it? [someone said something] There he left the body in 1968 itself. The one whom we used to think as the Father, the one whom we used to think as Prajapita Brahma, left his body; then through whose mouth will the Father speak? (Someone said - through the mouth of Dadi) Is it through the mouth of Gulzar Dadi? If He speaks through the mouth of Gulzar Dadi, then Gulzar Dadi will become the Father, but one has never heard anything like this that – God comes in a female body. What does God Father say in the Murli? The Father is the Father as well as the Teacher and the Sadguru as well. He is just one who plays part in all the three forms.

The one who is disobedient gets stained/disgraced. With what does he get stained/disgraced? If a soul disobeys even the highest Father in the Confluence Age, which is the highest Age where one performs the shooting, the rehearsal of many births, then for how many births will he get stained/disgraced? He gets stained/disgraced for many births. He became disobedient even to God, then whom will he spare? The Father explains to the Brahmin children here – If one says something (good) the other person should accept it. One should give regard to every soul. And here, leave alone the matter of the souls. They even disobey the Father, who comes and gives the inheritance to the souls for many births. That is why Baba never says. What? Baba does not even give any order…...
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD** No. 779 Audio Cass.No.- 1265, dt.-10-10-07 at Bahalwa (Haryana)

Clarification of Murli dated 30-1-68

Part-II


The children should have sense, now as much as possible we should take the inheritance of happiness forever from the unlimited Father. Now means when? Now, when the purushottam Confluence Age [when the best among the souls get revealed it world] is going on. The Father gets revealed in the purushottam Confluence Age itself. To whatever extent possible i.e. as much power one possesses to make efforts, one should take the inheritance for many births from such an unlimited Father. Do we get the inheritance of 21 births or [the inheritance of] many births from the Father? [Someone said something] How? The inheritance of 21 births that we receive from the Father is the unlimited inheritance from the unlimited Father. But the inheritance that we receive after doing efforts for the 21 births and for that, the practice of making efforts, good efforts that was done in the Confluence Age, that practice remains for 63 births as well, although, the good efforts done in one birth give fruits in the next birth.

Therefore, the sanskar of making efforts becomes firm. Just as, there have been many such souls in the history, that wherever they had taken birth, their fortune then was as if nil, but they emerged out to be such effort makers that in that one birth itself, what did they become from just an ordinary soldier? They became a king, an emperor. Therefore the good children should follow. What kind of good children? Those that have the sanskar of making swift efforts. One should never give sorrow to anybody. What is the Father’s direction? Do not give sorrow or take sorrow.

The children understand that this is the Drama. The capital is to be established. The teacher knows that the capital is being established, then why will he feel hatred? Towards whom? Will the teacher feel hatred towards those students who make efforts lethargically or who do not make efforts at all? No. Why not? Because he knows that all the students in a class are not alike. Moreover, over here, the capital is being established. In a capital, those who take birth in the royal family will be many. It will be a family of 16108, the unlimited Godly family which takes the inheritance of kingship from the Father but those who take positions in that inheritance are number wise.

Some will become emperor and empress, some will become king and queen, some will become small and big royal officers and some will become servants and maid servants. There are first class servants and maid servants too, who control the other servants and maid servants. Then some also become third class servants and maid servants. That is not all. There is not just the royal family in a capital. What else is there? The subjects are there as well. Some are first class wealthy subjects [sahookar praja]. When the kings sit on the throne, then the eminent and wealthy persons [bade bade sahookar] also take high seats close to the king, in the kings court. It is because they do become the helpers to the king, don’t they? The teacher certainly knows that a big capital is going to be established. It does not happen like this in the other religions at all. The religious fathers come and establish their religion and depart. They do not establish the capital. Over here the complete capital is established. So, why will the teacher develop hatred?

If they do not understand at all, they will be disgraced. If they fail badly then they will not get the lift. The Father knows that they will perform the same act that they had performed in the previous cycle. They also show that Ram failed. What? Why was ‘also’ used? ‘Also Ram’; Ram is so famous. The kingdom of Ram [Ramrajya] is so famous. That Ram too failed. He failed in the battlefield, so he came in the Silver Age. Does the battle take place in the Golden Age that he failed and came in the Silver Age? Is there the kingdom of Ram also in the Golden Age or not? The kingdom of Ram is there in the Golden Age too. In that case, when there is the kingdom of Ram himself in the Golden Age, then would he have failed in the Golden Age? Where are the efforts made? Are they made in the golden and the silver ages or in the Confluence Age? [Someone said - In the Confluence Age]. In that case, when would he have failed? Even in the Confluence Age; the Confluence Age is of hundred years.

So, Ram too failed. What does it mean? The reason for using ‘too’ is that a powerful soul like Ram, whose name is so famous in Bharat, when even he failed, then will anyone be spared from failure. Maya does not leave anyone. She catches hold of someone early and someone later. So what do they say for Ram? He failed in the battlefield. Does ‘failed’ mean failed in the past, in the present or in the future? What do they often say? Ram failed. It means that he failed in the beginning of the Yagya. They do not say for Krishna. What? That he failed. [But they say] Ram failed. So, Ram failed in the beginning of the Yagya, there must be some reason. What is the reason? There was not so much of knowledge in the beginning.

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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD*** No. 779 Audio Cass.No.- 1265, dt.-10-10-07 at Bahalwa (Haryana)

Clarification of Murli dated 30-1-68

Part-III


What was there in the beginning? Was there the foundation of Bhakti in the beginning of the Confluence Age or was there The Knowledge? There was the foundation of Bhakti. They used to come to the satsang [the spiritual gathering] and enter trance. They used to experience visions. Many experienced visions. Many gathered at Sindh-Hyderabad. So was there knowledge? They used to keep uttering the sound- om, om, om. In that case, was there the effort of going beyond sound/speech or was there the effort of coming into speech/sound like the devotees. There was the effort of coming into speech. Bhakti became the foundation. The devotees experience visions in Bhakti itself. So as there was no knowledge in the beginning, Ram failed.

Why? It is because for the soul of Ram, it is often said in the murli- the Father is called Ram and the child is called Krishna . He has the intellect of a child and he has the intellect of a Father. Who has more knowledge and wisdom, the Father or the child? The Father has more wisdom. Wisdom itself is called knowledge. Moreover, there was not so much knowledge at the beginning of the Yagya. They used to narrate the same Sanskrit Gita (of the path of devotion). They used to interpret it. Just as when small children are taught, are they told matters on a gross level or in depth? So, as there was not much knowledge at that time, they failed. Not just Ram but all the Suryavanshi children like Ram failed. Who were saved? Those who do not have the foundation of The Knowledge of many births, all ranging from those who belonged to the moon dynasty to those of the Islam dynasty, the Buddhist dynasty and the Christian dynasty were saved. And the souls who acted based on intelligence, the intelligent children of the intelligent Father did not get the food for the intellect. Therefore, they broke away. As for the rest, the devotee souls were left.

What will the devotee souls think? Even if god comes and the devotees meet him, then their blind faith will tell them that we will do efforts and we will meet him sometime, in some or the other birth. What will the children who are knowledgeable souls say? Oh! We are studying here; will we get the fruits in the next birth? This is blind faith like the devotees. So, the souls of whichever dynasty ranging from the moon dynasty to the Islam dynasty, the Buddhist dynasty, the Christian dynasty that were getting converted in Bharat, those converted souls had come back at the beginning of the Yagya and they were saved. The rest, i.e. the intelligent children of the intelligent Father, the Suryavanshi, left. Ram was chief among them.
So it was said, he failed in the battlefield, so he came in the Silver Age. Still he must have put good efforts. What was said? Although, he failed, still, among all those who had failed he would have made good efforts. And Maya makes everyone fail, someone in the beginning, someone in the middle and someone in the end. No one should become proud to the extent to say that although Maya is almighty, let her defeat us and show, we will never get defeated. If that was the case, that if someone had the courage to say that we never get defeated by Maya, then will that person get the title of almighty or will Maya get it? He would get it himself?

So it was said, he failed in the battlefield, so he came in the Silver Age; still he must have put good efforts. Now he will do efforts and certainly get a position. That was the matter of the past that he failed. And, whoever makes efforts after becoming a Brahmin, their efforts do not go waste even if they leave the body, it gets added in the next birth. That is why it was said that now he will do efforts and certainly get a position. The Confluence Age is there, is it not? Has the final paper taken place yet? If someone fails in the monthly, 2 monthly or three monthly tests, then does he become experienced? He does become experienced. If he does good efforts in the end, then can he go fast or not? He can. Then he will do efforts and get a position. It was confirmed that even the soul of Ram will do efforts and get a position in the end. He will keep getting every cycle. Who? ‘He’ means, the hint was towards whom? The souls like Ram who had failed in the beginning due to not getting the complete dose of knowledge. They will keep getting the position every cycle, and the children will experience everything in the visions.

One should make efforts and bring about the benefit of oneself. One should do service and climb on BapDada’s heart. Whom does BapDada remember? Those who are the serviceable children, the Father remembers them and those who do not do service at all, the Father does not remember them at all. The children too remember the Father. The whole world remembers god. But whom does god remember? God remembers those who are the serviceable children. So who will get more power? Will those who remember with their own strength get more power or will those whom god himself remembers get more power? God is Almighty.

So, there is more benefit in becoming serviceable and service is not done just through speech. Service is not done just through the karmendriyas [organs of actions], service also takes place through vision. Service also takes place through vibrations, through the thoughts. If one keeps good wishes for someone then will he not feel that good wish? It is also said in the path of devotion, ‘hit anhit pashu pakshiyu jana’, what? Even the souls of animals and birds understand that this particular person is our well wisher and this particular person is going to harm us. This one is the one who fosters us and this one is a hunter who is going to shoot us. When even the animals understand, how will man who possesses the mind and intellect not recognize?

So it is good to climb on to the heart of BapDada. It is the kingdom of Ravan , which is the reason why they burn Ravan. Who burn? Oh! In the world, in India and abroad they make the effigies and burn them, who makes those effigies and burns them? They [the people] make the effigy of the one who gives a lot of sorrow, and burn them. So Ravan, who gives sorrow and who has many heads and many opinions, when he gives a lot of sorrow he is burnt. It means that in which age did the burning of Ravan begin? [Some one said since the Copper Age.] No. Is there so much sorrow in the Copper Age?

Everything in this world is satopradhan [completely pure], satosamanya [ordinarily pure] and rajopradhan [semi pure]. So the Ravan in the form of five vices will also be satopradhan in the beginning or is he tamopradhan [completely impure] since the beginning itself? There was not so much of vice in the Copper Age. Ravan was not so tamopradhan and sorrow giving. When did he become the giver of sorrow? When did the attack of the lustful, the angry, the greedy and the ones with attachment take on Bharat? It happened in the iron age, the history says so. At first they did not attack, so this proves that this community of Ravan harshly attacked Bharat in the iron age. It is not so that he was not in opposition in the Copper Age or that he was not our enemy. He was there too. But he was not so degraded.

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Note: The words in italics are words in Hindi. Some words have been added by the translator in the brackets to make the translation more meaningful.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD**** No. 779 Audio Cass.No.- 1265, dt.-10-10-07 at Bahalwa (Haryana)

Clarification of Murli dated 30-1-68

Part-IV


It is a kingdom of Ravan ; so, they burn Ravan. In the kingdom of Ravan like the king & queen the subjects also belong to the Ravan community. Is there a kingdom of Ravan in the entire world or is any kingdom spared? Nepal was the only place where kingship was going on. Now even that has ended. There is the kingdom of Ravan in the entire world. Therefore, , as the king so the subjects, the entire world belongs to the Ravan community. It is very easy to understand . If you explain like this, nobody would get angry. Otherwise, if you tell them directly that – you belong to the Ravan community, then anyone will get angry. When you are in the kingdom of Ram , you are deities. When you are in the kingdom of Ravan , you are a demon, a demoness. [You are] demons in the kingdom of Ravan . You burn Ravan; he does not die. Ravan is burnt every year. Does he die? His picture (i.e. effigy) is made even bigger. So, you burn Ravan, (but) he becomes even more big. He does not die. He does not die; so he exists, doesn’t he? Or did he perish by burning?

Now you have to become pure and hence the master of the pure world. It means that the kingdom of Ravan will not end by preparing and burning the effigy of anyone else. What should we do? If we reform ourselves, the world will get reformed. When the five vices, which are in us end, get burnt, become ash, then how will everyone be in the world around us? Everyone will be viceless. If we become Lakshmi & Narayan, then how will our friends and companions be? They will be like Lakshmi & Narayan.

In the kingdom of Ram people are sensible (samajhdaar) and in the kingdom of Ravan people are unintelligent (besamajh). Now in this world everyone possesses a stone-like intellect. Whose kingdom is it? Arey! In the world of Brahmins, should there be the kingdom of Ram or not? (Someone said – It is being established) Is it being established? If the kingdom of Ram gets established, will it be established by Krishna , will it be established by Abraham, will it be established by Mohammad, or by whom? The name is kingdom of Ram ; it is not the kingdom of Shiv . When the name is kingdom of Ram , then it will be established only by Ram. So, if Ram keeps on burning Ravan, will the kingdom of Ravan end? No. The kingdom of Ravan exists only when the consciousness of self ends and body consciousness increases; when the consciousness of the body increases and the consciousness of the soul ends. When the eight celestial degrees of the soul decreases then the body consciousness increases.

End of soul conscious stage means that the stage of consciousness of the self (swasthiti) ends and the end of the consciousness of the self (swasthiti) means the end of heaven (swarg). Consciousness of the self (swa sthiti) leads to heaven and ‘par’ (belonging to others) means body made up of the five elements. The consciousness of the body leads to hell (narak). Nar makes narak and the one who always lives in the consciousness of the self (swasthiti), what does he make? He makes heaven (swarag). So, the one who always lives in the consciousness of the self has come in this world and, what does He say? Children, I, your Father have come. By saying children , does He tell the body conscious children or does He tell the soul conscious children? (Someone said – the body conscious ones) Do the body conscious children belong to the Father? Who will become the direct children of the Father? When the Confluence Age ends and when we are about to go to the Golden Age, or when we are about to give birth to the children of the Golden Age, then will they be the ones who take 84 births or will they be the ones who take lesser number of births?

(Someone said – 84) They alone will be the soul conscious children. They will be the direct children of the Father and the rest are not the direct children at all. Neither are they the ones to obey the orders of the Father. They will not obey the orders of the Father and will start obeying the orders of the bodily religious gurus in the end. So, those who do not accept the orders of the Father at all; those who do not accept the versions of the Father at all; the Father says – it is better if such a child dies. If the creation does not remain under the control of the creator, then such a creation is not a creation; but what happens today? What did the kings do? They know that – my child is unworthy; even then they give the kingdom to him and go. If they give the kingdom to that child, what does it prove? Is that child his creation? He was not his creation at all. The creation in whose body the blood of the creator flows will listen to the words of the creator. If there is the blood of anyone else, then he would not listen.

So, it has been said that – now everyone possesses a stone-like intellect. Everyone means? Now everyone possesses a stone-like intellect – In which year was this said? It was said in 1968. So, did the entire world possess a stone-like intellect at that time? (Someone said – the children of the Yagya) The children of the Yagya possessed stone-like intellect and the rest possessed a Paras-like intellect (Paaras is a mythical stone believed to have the power to transform iron into gold by mere touch)? This is a wonderful thing! (Someone said – This is being told to the souls of the Yagya) No. This is indeed being told to [the souls] of the Yagya. It was told to [the souls] of the Yagya. Now everyone possesses a stone-like intellect. So, it is being said to the souls of the Yagya – So, is the general world not included in ‘everyone’? It means , is the soul of Ram included or not? Is the soul of Krishna , i.e. Dada Lekhraj Brahma included in that list or not?

(Someone said – Everyone is included) He is also included. Had he not been in that list, in the list of those who possess a stone-like intellect, then he would have understood all the versions of the Murli as they were. Did he understand? The announcement about the destruction of 1976 was made in the Murlis. Did he understand which world is going to be destroyed and the new gathering of which new world will get established? This matter did not occur in his intellect. What did he think – (he thought that) this world consisting of 500-700 crores will get destroyed. So, did the Brahmakumar-kumaris possess a stone-like intellect or Paras-like intellect? They possess a stone-like intellect. Now everyone possesses a stone-like intellect. Yes, they are making efforts to achieve a Paras-like intellect
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD***** No. 779 Audio Cass.No.- 1265, dt.-10-10-07 at Bahalwa (Haryana)

Clarification of Murli dated 30-1-68

Part-V


The Father says – Consider yourself to be a soul and remember the one Father; then the burden of sins on the head would get reduced. One can become a noble soul (punyatma) only by remembering the Father. There is no other way. What? One can become a noble soul by remembering the Father! What is this rule? Is it a rule? Yes, it is a rule. As the person we remember, so we shall become. This is the rule, isn’t it? If we keep the company of the thieves and dacoits through the intellect, if we remember the thieves and decoits, then one would imbibe the features of stealing and dacoity. If we remember the wicked ones, if we remember the sinful souls, if we keep the company of the sinful souls through the intellect, then we will become a sinful soul itself . So, here it has been told – one can become a noble soul by remembering the Father.

Does the Father become a noble soul? If He becomes a noble soul, then He would also become a sinful soul. Does the Father of souls, the Father of point-like souls become a noble soul or a sinful soul? He does not become. Then which Father is it a matter of? (Someone said – Father Ram) It is not just a matter of Father Ram also. It is a matter of the incorporeal Father who has come in a corporeal (medium). One will not become a noble soul even if one leaves the corporeal . One will not become a noble soul even if one leaves the incorporeal. That is why, a Kannada Murli has been found in which it has been written – The sins will not get cut/burnt by remembering the subtle one, the corporeal one or the incorporeal one.

One must neither remember the corporeal, nor the incorporeal, or the subtle one. One must not even remember the subtle bodied being because the people of other religions remember the subtle-bodied angels more. In India angels are not much accepted. In India deities are accepted, for whom temples are constructed, idols are prepared. They are worshipped. Here [in India] there is no recognition for angels. Under the worship of ghosts and devils and the belief in tantriks is taking place in India . Whose influence is it? This is the influence of the foreigners.

It has been written clearly in the Gita that – those who worship me will get attainments from me. Those who worship the deities will get the attainments from the deities and achieve the post of deities. What? Those who worship me will not achieve the post of deities. What will they achieve? Arey, (Someone said something) Even then he is a deity . Those who worship me. I am God, so what will I make? When God comes, He makes Gods and Godesses. Are there Gods and Goddesses in the Golden Age? They do not exist there. So, is the position of God and Goddess higher or is the position of deity higher? The position of God and Goddess is higher.

That is why it has been said here – One can become a noble soul by remembering the Father. It means that it is not a matter of the incorporeal Father. If one keeps the company of the doctor, then one will get the skills of medical science. If one keeps the company of an Engineer, then one will get the skills of engineering. If the Father is a noble soul, the children will also become noble souls. That is why it has been said – One can become a noble soul by remembering the Father. By remembering which Father? That corporeal Father who is the Father of this human world. He is the Father of the entire human world and the incorporeal Father has entered into him. One can become a noble soul by remembering that Father.

Maximum benefit lies in sitting in the remembrance. The Father is an ocean of peace, ocean of joy. We have to obtain the inheritance only from Him . What? We have to obtain inheritance only from Him . We do not have to obtain from this one. Did He say that – we have to obtain inheritance from this one? It has been said in the Murli – One will not gain anything by worshipping Brahma or Christ. Even otherwise, one does not get inheritance from the mother. This one is also Brahma[senior mother]. From whom will one get the inheritance? One gets inheritance from the Father.

Remember the Father while moving. Then one has to inculcate divine virtues as well. What? It is not that we should just go on remembering. Even Ravan used to remember Shiva. It is a matter of the Confluence Age, isn’t it? The remembrance which even Ravan performed, although he worshiped Devi as well ; so, was there the remembrance of the Father in the remembrance of Ravan or not? Was it not there? It was there, but he used to accept only the incorporeal. What? He did not use to accept the corporeal, and then he also used to worship Devi. So, the remembrance was adulterated. (Someone asked – So, Baba, if we should not remember the corporeal, if we should not remember the incorporeal, if we should not remember the subtle one, then where should we remember).

Should remember the incorporeal in the corporeal , this is our household (pravritti). How is our remembrance too? Is it a remembrance of the household or is it a remembrance of the renouncement (nivritti)? Our remembrance is not a remembrance of renouncement, remembrance of one. Our remembrance is also of household. The path that we are going to establish on the Shrimat of the Father; are we going to establish the path of household or are we going to establish the path of renouncement? We are going to establish a path of household, so our remembrance should also be of the path of household. So, one must remember the Father. One must not give sorrows to anyone. One must not speak bitter words.

You children know – there, in the heaven, there were palaces of diamonds, jewels, gold etc. Did they exist? (A mother said – there were gold-like souls) There were palaces of gold-like souls. What does it mean by ‘Palace’? The gatherings that will be formed, the forts of gatherings that will be built, will be the forts of gatherings of the elevated souls. There will not be any Islamic, Buddhist soul among them? What will all of them be? All of them will be Suryavanshis or the Chandravanshis who bow before the Suryavanshis. Give your daughter; then, what will you too become? They will make you too a Suryavanshi. What has been the tradition in India ? When the daughter goes to her husband’s house, then her husband’s family becomes her family. The blood itself changes entirely, or does it remain the same? The blood itself changes. Similarly, the foundation was laid that – all the Suryavanshis are the real children of the Father, but those who become bound to help them throughout the life, those who bow themselves, although they belong to another dynasty, what do even they become? They too are called Suryavanshis. So, there would be palaces, forts of the gathering of Suryavanshi-Chandravanshi souls like these. So, definitely it would repeat. The palaces of gold existed earlier also and they will come into existence again now. The same temples, etc. would be built again
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD****** No. 779 Audio Cass.No.- 1265, dt.-10-10-07 at Bahalwa (Haryana)

Clarification of Murli dated 30-1-68

Part-VI


... Bhaarat ( India ) was so prosperous. You are becoming the masters of such Bharat. You become the masters of the world. The Father does not become the master of the world Himself. It is a matter of which Father? (Someone said – the incorporeal one) Is it the incorporeal one? Does the corporeal Father become the master of the world? Then has such a feature (charitra) been shown in the pictures? Has he been shown in the pictures as a beggar or as a crowned person (taajdhaari)? He has been shown as a beggar. The pictures are memorials of the features, aren’t they? So, the Father has given the inheritance to the children. He gives the ownership (malikana) of the world to the children and goes. He does not become the master himself. He is called – uncrowned emperor (betaaj baadshah). What? He does not wear the crown, but gives the crown to the children and then departs.

(Someone asked – Baba, when the revelation will take place in the form of Narayan, will the emperorship of the world not exist?) Will the one who is Narayan, will the one who is going to be transformed from a man to Narayan be the Master of the new world or will he be the master of the entire world? (Someone said – He will be in the Confluence Age) That is a matter of Shankar. Is there any difference between Prajapita and Shankar or not? (Someone said – Baba, the one, whom the entire world will accept) Yes. The one whom the entire world accepts. Do the foreigners accept Narayan? They don’t. In the Indian region, Narayan has been such a king, whose story is sung as the story of the true Narayan (Satyanarayan). The story of Satyanarayan is not sung in the foreign countries. It is sung in India and the one who is Narayan, is not the master of the entire world. (A Brother said – The entire world also accepts that this is the one, this is the one) No. The entire world does not accept Narayan.

(The Brother said – No, the world does not accept Narayan. They accept the Father) The one who has been said to be the Father is called Adam, Aadam and Aadinath. He is not called Narayan in other religions. (The Brother said – then who is the world emperor) The one who is called the world emperor, is actually the title of Shankar – ‘Vishwnath’) Kashi Vishwanath Gangey. Har har Mahadev Shambho. Whose controller/master is he? He is the master/controller of the entire world. So, it has been said (Someone asked – Baba, is it the soul of Ram?) The soul of Ram himself, when Shiv enters in his body and after entering makes him equal to himself and departs, plays two kinds of roles. . He plays the part of Vishwanath as well as the part of Shankar. But because of the connection of the intellect with Lakshmi there is a part of Narayan as well. For example, there are some roles, aren’t there? There are some dramas/plays, where one plays two parts. So, similarly it is a double part. Therefore, the Father does not become the master of the world himself. Who becomes the master of the world? You children become the masters of the world. Well, you alone were the master of the world. Neither was I the master of the world nor was this one the master of the world. Nor were the followers of this one the masters of the world. You were the masters of the world. Then while taking 84 births, they have become impure.

The Father says – I come and uplift everyone. What does ‘everyone’ mean? (Someone said – 500-700 crores) Yes, I cause the upliftment (uddhaar) of all the human souls. What does‘Ut haar’ mean ? ‘Ut’ means ‘above’. ‘Har’ means ‘I abduct them and take them away (with me)’. You do not go above with your own efforts. Your intellect remains fixed below; so, what do I do? I forcibly abduct your intellect-like soul and take it above. So, upliftment (uddhaar) takes place, does it not? Will there be any sin in the soul which becomes a dweller of the Soul World? No. It will become stainless (nishkalank). There is no question of vices there. There is no kingdom of Ravan . The Father narrates such sweet points. When one goes out from here, one becomes a bat again. When one comes here the intoxication of joy increases. The mercury of joy rises. When one goes out, the intellect moves towards the land. The Father takes it above and Maya-Ravan takes it below.

The path of worship itself is an opposite path (ulta marg). The path of knowledge is the correct path (sulta marg). In the path of worship, the legs are above and the head is towards the land, towards the 5 elements. The intellect, i.e. the head is in which direction? The intellect is directed towards the land made up of 5 elements. In the path of knowledge the head is above and the legs are below. It means that one kicks this world and the intellect; the hand-like intellect is extended towards heaven. The bats hang upside down, don’t they? The human beings are also hanging upside down. Now the Father is making you sit upright. The children have to make efforts.

What will Baba do by taking two lakhs from anyone? He will say – Go and open a museum. What? Baba does not have any attraction for your money. These buildings will perish. The high palaces, buildings, attics which are visible, are all going to perish. Baba is a businessman. He is also a jeweler/banker (sarraaf). He is the one who gives us joy by liberating us from the shackles of sorrows. Now some time is left. What? Now are the days of joy. Now, even then the time of peace is going on. Study takes place during which time? One studies during the times of peace. Now these are the days of happiness. So, one must not shout and cry during the days of happiness. Have patience during the days of joy. In future, there is going to be a lot of disturbance. What? People will not allow you to live peacefully at one place. Omshanti.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.782, Cassette No.1268, dated 14.10.07 at Dental Billa (Chandigarh)

Clarification of Trance Message dated 11.10.07

Part-I


Omshanti. 11th October, 2007. Divine message from the Subtle Region through Sister Mohini. Sadguruvar (Thursday). The message of dearest BapDada for the souls that have gone to the Advance Party.

Today, when I reached the Subtle Region with the special remembrance and love of all of you, the scene in the Subtle Region was very attractive (khushnuma). Today there was so much of an atmosphere of excitement (raunak) in the Subtle Region because Baba had called to the Subtle Region, all his children who had gone to the Advance Party and everyone was meeting and talking to each other in the Subtle Region with a lot of love.

So, as soon as I reached, I saw that Baba was busy in a spiritual chit-chat with a few of his children. Which children were called to the Subtle Region? He had called all the children, but he was having a spiritual chit-chat with a few children of the Advance Party. Seeing me, he said – the trance messenger (sandeshi) has come from Madhuban. Why? In case someone may not have noticed (her presence) and the spiritual chit-chat would have continued in the Subtle Region; that is why he gave a hint that – the messenger from Madhuban has come. So, I too went amidst them and continued to meet all of them through drishti (vision) with a lot of love. So, Baba said – Daughter, look, Baba has invited to the Subtle Region all the souls that have departed so far. So, today all the souls have come to the Subtle Region. So, have you brought so much Bhog for everyone? I said – Baba, I have brought a lot. All the souls will get this Brahma Bhojan with love.

Then I asked – Baba, what were all of you sitting here and talking ? So, Baba smiled and said – ask your friends. So, I started looking at everyone thinking – who will narrate, but everyone kept smiling. So, I said – was the matter such that nobody is narrating at all. You tell me. So, Dadi says – Look, now we all were making plans and Baba was giving hints to all of us – what should each one do? So, our Advance Party is completely prepared so that – Baba would give us the green signal and we will start our work. So, I asked – where are you people? Arey! Is it a matter to ask – where are you? They would be in the Subtle Region itself. Why did she ask that – where are you? It means that there is some confusion (shashopanj). (Someone said something), No, there must be some address. Where are you people? Give some address. It means that it is there in the intellect of Mohini too that – there cannot be any address in the Subtle Region. Certainly the Advance Party is in the corporeal world and there they also have an address. So, just give the address – where are you and what are you doing? I don’t know anything at all. So, they said – ask Baba. We will not tell.

I looked towards Baba – tell at least now because you tell again and again that the time is nearing. So, Baba said – Now wait. I said – Baba, how long should we wait? So, Baba said – when Baba has to tell, He will Himself give a hint . I said – Baba, at least tell me how much time is remaining? Are there 2 years, 4 years, one year; how much time is left? So, Baba said – Suppose, even if I told you that two years are left, three years are left, what will you do? So, I said – what will I do? I will speed-up the effort. So, Baba said – If I tell you the time, then will you speed-up the efforts? So, you are standing on time, but if something happens to you before time, then? That is why you people should make efforts from now onwards. You must remain ever ready for everything. So, Baba asks – are you all ever ready? So, I said – Baba , we are ever ready according to the drama plan, but as regards your plan, you know it better. We do not know. So, Baba said – You are replying tactfully. I said – Baba, we will act in the way you have taught us.

So, Baba said – Look, now Baba is going to start something or the other. Look here, so many of my Maharathi[great warriors] children are sitting. And there are all kinds of children among them. Among whom? He said for the children of the Advance Party who were shown sitting in the Subtle Region – These Maharathi children are sitting and there are all kinds of children among them. What does ‘all kinds’ mean? (A Brother said – belonging to all the religions) Yes, there are souls belonging to all the religions. When Baba starts, then all of you will also experience this. You will even have a touching and you will see as well and all of you will say that – it has started. It has started – it will emerge from everyone’s mouth.

Then Baba moved ahead along with 10-12 main Brothers and Sisters. So, what I saw was that just as sections are made, similarly [there too] the sections were formed. If someone prepares a rosary, then what do they do? They prepare separate piles (of beads) and keep; then they start threading (the beads) one by one from the piles. So, separate sections were formed and Brothers and Sisters were present in all of them. So, Baba took me to the last section. It was appearing as if all those who were sitting there, were sitting in a stage of repentance (pashchaataap).

Which would be the last section? Of the Arya Samaj. He took us to the section of Arya Samaj, the last section and I saw them – as if they were all repenting. Why? What were they repenting for? In the limited world, in today’s limited world, the power lies in the hands of which religion, in India? It is in the hands of the Arya Samajis, who are secular. They do not have any consideration for any religion because the souls of Aryasamaj are such souls that they have come after having suffered blows in every religion and after having left every religion. So, they do not have faith on any religion and in the end they get the throne of kingship in the Government. So, for those who get the throne of kingship there is a proverb – “Prabhutaa paah kahi mad naahi” (Who does not become egotistic after getting power?) The one who gets the seat becomes very egotistic. Just as today’s Government thinks – We alone will bring the kingdom of Ram; we alone will make heaven. They go on making plans upon plans. Similarly, in the world of Brahmins, the group of Arya Samajis, whether in the basic (knowledge) or in advance (knowledge) – both kinds of groups
...(to be continued)
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD** No.782, Cassette No.1268, dated 14.10.07 at Dental Billa (Chandigarh)

Clarification of Trance Message dated 11.10.07

Part-II


... So, it was said, that the last section where he took (me), whoever was sitting there was as if in a stage of repentance. Their eyes were filled with tears. How? How is this applicable in the basic knowledge? (Someone said – Jagdish Bhai also went in a similar way) Even when Jagdish Bhai gave a message (through the trance messenger), he said – I had made a firm resolution that – “I will certainly reveal the Father”, but later on he came to know, when he left the body that – “I was under a wrong impression.” He can reveal only when he has realized the Father. Because of ego he gave all opposite clarifications. Opposite things fitted into the intellect. Neither did he himself realize the Father nor did he allow others to realize. When he became free from the bondage of the physical body, then the subtle body can understand more deeply. He came to know the truth that – why was he not able to reveal the Father? …Their eyes were full of tears; they were even seeing us all and then they used to lower their eyes. They were unable to take continuous drishti. It appeared as if – they were remembering something repeatedly.

So, Baba said – Look, no doubt these are my children, but these are those children, who have hidden something or the other from Baba. So, they cannot look into my eyes. They cannot take drishti (from me). One thing is that they have spoken lies. What? All the clarifications that emerge from the Advance Party, there is a bridge of Ram built in practical. All those matters keep reaching from one place to the other, from one end to the other, and he falsely clarified all those matters and started giving a training. So, it was said – One thing is that he spoke lies. If a person speaks one lie, then he has to speak hundred lies on top of it. . And secondly he has hidden [the truth]. What? He has spoken lies and secondly he has hidden [the truth]. What has he hidden? From the inside he used to feel, he used to even understand but he used to bury the matter. He has hidden it, so now he feels that – I have committed a grave mistake. What? Why did he use the word ‘I’? Why did he not say ‘we’? There is a chief, isn’t there? He pointed towards him saying that – “I have committed a grave mistake.”

The second page of the message dated 11.10.07. But still, it appeared as if Baba was giving them a kind drishti. The atmosphere on that side was very heavy, burdensome. Now it has been said for the souls of the Advance Party that there are separate groups of those souls who have left their bodies and gone. Everyone is working in his own section. Just as Kumarka Dadi has left her body now, so for how many days did BapDada keep her with him? 12-13 days. He did not keep her for more than that. It was told – she has to go to her service field. So, she has her own section, but now the matter of the last section was going on, where the atmosphere appeared to be very heavy, burdensome.

Then Baba went from there and came to the second group. So, the second group was taking drishti, but there was no happiness. It appeared as if there was sadness on their faces. They appeared to be looking at Baba, but there was some repentance in them too. Joy wasn’t there. So, Baba said that – these are my careless children. (we will do, it will happen, we will see – they think like this and keep managing themselves, and they also keep satisfying Baba . Yes, Baba, it will happen, we will do it, everything will happen on time. So, these people remained careless and they had to leave the old body suddenly according to their karmic accounts . Due to carelessness, they could not attain what they should have attained. What should they have attained? (Someones said – to get transformed from a man to Narayan) No. Getting transformed from a man to Narayan – this aim was already there in the basic knowledge. It is not that matter. (Someone said – To achieve the Father) Yes, whatever one had to attain, i.e., the Advanced Knowledge which they should have obtained, the Father, whom they should have recognized, they could not attain that due to carelessness.

They remained immersed in the intoxication of their respect and grandeur (maan-shaan). That is why they are also experiencing lack of attainments, (thinking) that – we have tried to manage Baba for a long time. We have tried to manage ourselves too thinking that we will do. So, since they have tried to manage, they are now crying. What should we do Baba; we did this (mistake). Now you show us some path Baba. As if they were burning in the fire of repentance. So, Baba said – certainly, all of them are my children, but now just as they have come in this atmosphere, so, everyone is also looking at his fate as a detached spectator (saakshi). What? When they were initially following the path of basic knowledge, they had prepared separate gathering of their own. Then they used to think something else. Now after leaving the body, when they have come to such an atmosphere, they are looking at their fate as a detached spectator and they are also looking at their efforts, and now they are also experiencing that – we have tried to manage you. What we should have done and what did we keep doing? We tried to manage the Father, we also tried to manage our seekers of knowledge by organizing big but false programmes. They are experiencing that; that is why they too have a lot of repentance.

Then Baba came to the third group and said – Look at them, these are my nishchaybuddhi children (i.e. with an intellect that has faith on Baba), but because of the karmic accounts, they have left their old body, but in spite of that they are happy anyway with the joy of attainments of whatever efforts they have made. It means that they are not very happy
...(to be continued)
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD*** No.782, Cassette No.1268, dated 14.10.07 at Dental Billa (Chandigarh)

Clarification of Trance Message dated 11.10.07

Part-III


... Then Baba came into the group of Maharathis. So it appeared as if everyone was saying – What did you see, where are you coming from? How did you come? So, Baba looked at all of them and said – these are my dear (murabbi) children, who have played their part through the power of unshakeable faith (atoot nishchay), knowledge and Yoga and by becoming the foundation of the new world, they are laying the foundation for that new world. They are not making the new world now. What are they doing? They are laying the foundation for the new world. The foundation of the new world; any foundation is laid underground or is it visible above? (Many said – It is laid underground) So, they are laying the foundation of the new world.

These are my children [who laid] the foundation of the Advance Party. Is the foundation laid in the beginning, in the middle or in the end? It is in the beginning. It must have been in the beginning as well, that foundation of the beginning must have been in the beginning as well. So, it has been said – To such children Baba gives directions for the future. He also shows them everything. He gives directions for the future and he also teaches, tells them everything, and whatever work is to be got done through them, he also gets it done through them. He does not get it done through everyone. He does not teach everyone. He does not give directions to everyone directly. But he gives direct directions to these dear children. So, Baba has said – O my children, who make effort numberwise! The kingdom is getting ready. So, I enabled your meeting with the promising/forthcoming children of the kingdom, I showed you this scene.

And even now Baba says – Even now there are many such children of mine, who do not have so much faith that – they should go to Baba by understanding Baba what He is, as He is. ‘They should go to Baba’? Where? Should we go to the Subtle Region? One should understand Him ‘what He is’ – means that He is in practical, and ‘as He is’ and go to Baba. Even now it is not like this. They keep deceiving Baba. They do not have so much of faith at all. What? How much faith? That Baba is present in this world in a corporeal form. Even now there are many such children of mine, who do not have faith to the extent that - they should go to Baba by understanding Baba what He is, as He is. (A mother said – Baba; then does one speak to Brahma Baba there?) Where does it take place there? (The mother said – in the Subtle Region) Just as someone has a dream she (i.e. the trance messenger) sees it in the visions.

Do you have dreams? So, where do you see dreams? You see through the subtle body. (A Brother asked – They must be seeing the picture of Brahma Baba) Whoever has faith wherever and whatever, one sees the same. This is a message of the Subtle Region. Do those who bring trance message, who have visions, have inclination for the path of worship, or are they the children belonging to the path of The Knowledge? They are the children belonging to the path of worship. (The Brother asked – Vision is not considered to be true) It is not considered to be true, but the foundation that was laid in the beginning, on what basis was it laid? (Many said – On the basis of visions) That cannot be cut [ignored]. Even otherwise, it has been said – the devotees who perform naudha Bhakti ( very intense form of Bhakti) have visions. Everyone will not have. So, even now, there are such children, who do not have faith to the extent that – we should go to Baba. One can think that they are deceiving themselves. They are not deceiving Baba.

At such a time when there are hundred steps of attainments for every step of courage, (every step) of efforts – such a time is going on. Similarly, if one commits a mistake in one action, they will become entitled to hundred fold punishment. So, the time that is going on is a very delicate time. In this, every child should pay full attention to his mind (i.e. thoughts), speech and actions. That is why Baba is giving special hints to the children.

Then Dadi and Mama were sitting near Baba, and the rest were sitting in front (of him). Who all were sitting? Dadi and Mama. They were sitting beside and the rest were sitting in front. Why did he take Dadi and Mama together? Even in an earlier message it was told that – Prakriti (Nature) has joined hands with Maya, i.e. Dadi. Otherwise, nature performs its own task and Maya performs its own task. How many heads does Ravan have? Ten heads. 5 heads of Maya and 5 heads of nature. Both have their own form – multifaceted (bahurupiya), but what was the situation till now? They were performing their tasks separately.

What was the special task of Maya? Those children , who do not follow the Shrimat of the Father, shake them properly. Nobody follows the Shrimat cent percent. In addition, is nature assuming a degraded form or does she have a pure form? She is assuming a degraded form. There are untimely rains. It becomes hot in winters and it becomes cold in summers. She too is busy in giving a strong opposition, but both could not cause any major harm to Baba’s children. There is a rule – enemy’s enemy is our friend. Even Maya wants to spread darkness and to hide the Sun. She wants to hide the Sun from the children. What does she say? The darkness should prevail. And nature is also attacking Baba’s children. Will those, who are the first class children, sit in a stage of being the Lord of nature (prakritipati) or will they become subordinate to nature? Those who are the direct children of the Sun of Knowledge will not bow either to Maya or to nature. So, Maya and Nature, both are sitting in opposition [to the Father]. So, Maya and Nature have joined hands to work together. So, one and one combine to make how many? Eleven
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post12 Sep 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD**** No.782, Cassette No.1268, dated 14.10.07 at Dental Billa (Chandigarh)

Clarification of Trance Message dated 11.10.07

Part-IV


.....So, Dadi tells Baba – Baba, now you do it fast, will you not? What? Till now she did not say. Till now what did the Didi, Dadis say – we require some more time, a little more time. And now? Do it fast, will you not? Remove whatever weakness is remaining in whomever by giving them sakash (power). So, as if Dadi is telling with authority, with love; so, Baba looked at Dadi as well as Mama. So, Baba said – child (daughter), if you were in place of Baba, what would you do? So, she said – Baba, I will take everyone along with me. What will I do? I will take everyone along with me. So, he said – Will you make effort for everyone? Why? Because, is a soul able to make the true efforts while in the body or through the subtle body after leaving the body? The true efforts are made only when the corporeal body exists.

So, Baba asked – If you take everyone along with you, will you make efforts for everyone? Then Dadi said – Baba, you are enabling us to make efforts, aren’t you? So, I will bring everyone along with me and I will tell them – come one, come on, do as Baba says. It means that till now she had exerted her authority – do as I say. Now it is fitting into her intellect that – Do as Baba says. Then Baba said – child, all are not like you. There was a desire, an aim in you that - I have to achieve the karmaateet [stage beyond the effct of actions] stage; I have to become karmaateet; I have to become an angel. That devotion made you like this. How did it make her? How did it make her? It made her like this. ‘Like this’ means ‘like what’? Arey, until Dadi was alive, what was her desire? (Someone said – to become equal to Father Brahma) Yes, that I must achieve the same fate as that of Brahma Baba. ( a Brother said – Jagdish Bhai used to say like this) Yes. So, that desire made you like this. You yourself experienced it and made others also to experience. So, Baba says – Children should themselves experience and others should also experience through their stage and they should learn to make others experience.

So, Dadi got up as if the Subtle Region was her home and said – Baba, come on, now we will go somewhere. Then Baba said – Yes, my children from abroad (videshi bachchey) are waiting. Where will they go? My foreign children are waiting. Why are the foreign children waiting? Are the swadeshi (i.e. native) children not waiting? Why is Baba more inclined (someone said – towards the foreign children) towards the foreign children? (Someone said – The Father has come as a foreigner) Yes, yes. But why is there so much inclination towards the foreign children? He is remembering them that – they are waiting for me. So, Baba started walking. Along with him Dadi also started walking. Where? Towards the foreign children. Mama and I started walking. The foreign children were sitting in the shape of a half moon. So, Baba said – look, these are my double foreigner children, who have left their old bodies and some child is in the Advance Party, and some child does not have faith, but still, he became a child, (and hence) Baba has called everyone to the Subtle Region, although they do not have faith.

So, Baba gave everyone drishti with a lot of love and as if every one of them was feeling that – someone was laughing, someone was smiling, someone’s eyes were full of tears, someone was telling ‘Baba, Baba, my Baba, sweet Baba’. Just like everyone was remembering, similarly, Baba’s sakaash (power) was being experienced by everyone in the form of rays. The sakaash was reaching them in the form of rays. Then Baba said – There is a specialty of these children – they get into doing effort when they develop faith (on Baba) and their specialty is that they do not hide (anything) from Baba. Who? The double-foreigner children. Just as very few among the Indians disclose, similarly very few among these hide. Rest are the children who tell clearly. That is why Baba says – ‘Dil saaf toh muraad haasil’ (If the heart is clean then the desire is fulfilled). Some children surrender[dedicate] their body, mind, wealth and time, everything, to Baba on the basis of faith. So, Baba said – Every child has his own specialty. So, these are my special children with specialty, whom Baba gives drishti with a lot of love, whom He makes happy through the drishti and whom He gives blessings.

Then Brahma Bhojan was made to emerge for everyone there itself. So, Dadi said – Baba, shall I feed all of them? Baba said – Both of us will feed them together. So, Baba was offering them some items to eat and Dadi was offering them some items to eat. If someone leaves the physical body and if they get a subtle body, then the liking/penchant that they had before becomes visible. . Initially even in the corporeal form this liking was there- to eat and also to feed good food . The same liking was mentioned. Baba was offering them some items to eat and Dadi was offering them some items to eat. Baba used to stroke his hands on their forehead with a lot of love then everyone felt very happy. They used to feel satisfied
....(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. The words in brackets are words added by the translator for better understanding of the translation in English.
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