Are the BKs Knocking On The Devil's Door?

Scientific challenges to the beliefs promoted by the Brahma Kumaris so called "World Spiritual University"
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Re: Are the BKs Knocking On The Devil's Door?

Post15 Jun 2018

GuptaRati 6666 wrote:Pink, when there is the recruiting of souls from the bottom of the barrel ...

My concern would not be so much about "the recruiting of souls from the bottom of the barrel" but the promotion of them into unchallengeable position of authority!

I suppose, in a way, BK Indo-centrism was part of the appeal for early Western BK who want to play out which ever "Back to India" role they were attracted to, be it "Colonial", "Hippie trail" or Orientalist ... in my own case, I was just about to embark on a "Seeking the Master" type guru fantasy when I fell into their hands instead.

Was it an attraction of feeling superior, or being accepted by a more family/community oriented society - in contrast to Western individualistic society?

If there was any intelligent discussion within BKism, 'BK Indo-centrism' would be an interesting discussion.

In the early days, for example, Lekhraj Kirpalani was in essence very pro-British and portrayed Gandhi and Congress as being unpatriotic devils .. Gandhi a "traitor" (literally) and Congress "the Crow Party". the BK "God" most certain did not predict them winning and Partition happening.

It was only after the winds of change blew, that they embraced Gandhism and very much aligned themselves with the Indian Right, eg the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), which had close ideological and organisational links to the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS).

Equally so would be a study of Western BKs political alignments and awareness of Indian BKs' political alignments.

I suppose the first accommodation for Western BKs were two fold
    a) the idea that after Destruction - in which every nation except for India was supposed to sink below the oceans - BK foreign centres would become islands to which the reborn BK deities would fly in the nuclear powered, mind controlled flying machines for picnics.

    Latterly, we've even seen plenty of blonde haired, blue eyed "Golden Aged deities" images (largely, I think from BK Russia, calling on their own mythic past) ... but not so many dark skinned or 'negroid' deities. However, I don't know what the current party line on "diversity" is.
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    b) a sub-clause in the so called BK "Law of Karma" - this show you what a joke it is - that made Western BKs efforts to follow BKism worth - how much was it? - 10% or 50% more because we had to do it all in a foreign language?
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Re: Are the BKs Knocking On The Devil's Door?

Post16 Jun 2018

GuptaRati 6666 wrote:Pink, when there is the recruiting of souls from the bottom of the barrel, there can be a subsequent creation of dissidence as has been demonstrated by the resentment of BK Indo-centrism by Western BKs.

I think that arises because of other factors as well:
    The unravelling of the cohesion of the earlier teachings
    The trend toward ecumenicism
    Repeated revision/alterations of the teachings and priorities (which many are aware of, largely from the work of this forum)
    Physical decentralisation. People are not compelled to attend the centres physically, they can ”attend” online so the peer pressure to conform to a culture is weakened
There has always been dissidence within India and outside. They do take on board that which "serves" the growth of the organisation and impresses swadeshis, e.g. PR skills. Dissidents within India are usually concerned with status, petty competing over seniority and such an that gets dealt with politically - "you may be right in your complaint but the other person is donating heaps more than you!”

The BK monolith ignores Western dissidents because they are a minority of the minority.
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Re: Are the BKs Knocking On The Devil's Door?

Post16 Jun 2018

Pink Panther wrote:The BK monolith ignores Western dissidents because they are a minority of the minority.

For me, the utter denial of the historical correction at the so called "highest" levels is 'off the scale' evidence of their lack of enlightenment. Their lack of commonsense and arrogance even. It is beyond stupid into narcissistic corruption.

Even as Western BKs loyal to the cause raise the issue publicly, the Indian inner circle continues to pump 10,000s into media - websites, movies/cartoons, PR etc - in an attempt to sustain the false version.

Having said that, the majority of the nearest to "Western dissidents" that exist are still attempting to revise for the sakes of their own ego/investment into the cult, an acceptable or apologistic version ... trying to wallpaper over the cracks and explain away the anomalies and contradictions. What I call 'The Gradual Change School'.

But, as we've often discussed before, facts or truth do not matters, it's the purpose and effect that does. Any old nonsense will do, as long as it is useful in,
    a) sustaining individual's adherence (faith), and
    b) sustaining the cult's status and income.
Expedience over authenticity.

If it's not working anymore, slap another coat of whitewash over it ... there are plenty of 'Whitewash Wallahs' willing to do so for free, so what the hell.

It's the opposite of true spirituality.
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Re: Are the BKs Knocking On The Devil's Door?

Post18 Jun 2018

The minority of minorities, the Western BKs, more specifically the Western Ex-BKs can become giants among majorities. Google was once a minority of minorities and so was Microsoft. Will BKism be able to compete with similar and better or the best spiritual institutions in the near and distant future? It is a question the BK top brass will have to honestly ask and continue to honestly answer as the decades becomes another century and humankind unequivocally averts the annihilation of earth by nuclear warfare and climate change.
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