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Post20 Apr 2008

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"तुम्हारी राजधानी स्थापन करने में बड़ी मेहनत लगती है। गालियाँ भी खानी पड़ती हैं क्योंकि कलंगीधर बनना है। अभी तुम सब गाली खाते हो। सबसे जास्ती ग्लानि मेरी की है। फिर प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को भी गाली देते हैं। मित्र सम्बन्धी आदि सब बिगड़ पड़ते हैं। विष्णु वा शंकर को थोड़े ही गाली देंगे। बाप कहते हैं - मैं गाली खाता हूँ। तमु बच्चे बने हो तो तुमको भी हिस्सा लेना पड़ता है। नहीं तो यह अपने धन्धे में था, गाली की बात ही नहीं। सबसे जास्ती गाली मुझे देते हैं। अपने धर्म-कर्म भूल गये हैं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक २७.१२.०७, पृ.४)

"Tumhaari raajdhaani sthaapan karney may badee mehnat lagtee hai. Gaaliyan bhi khaani padtee hai kyonki kalangidhar ban-na hai. Abhi tum sab gaali khaatey ho. Sabsey jaasti glaani meri kee hai. Fir Prajapita Brahma ko bhi gaali detey hain. Mitra sambandhi aadi sab bigad padtey hain. Vishnu va Shankar ko thodey hee gaali dengey. Baap kahtey hain – mai gaali khaataa hoon. Tum bachchey baney ho toh tumko bhi hissa lena padtaa hai. Nahee toh yah apney dhandhey may tha, gaali kee baat hee nahee. Sabsey jaasti gaali mujhey detey hain. Apnaa dharma-karma bhool gaye hain." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 27.12.07, pg 4)

“It takes a lot of efforts to esablish your kingdom. You also have to face abuses because you have to become kalangidhar (one who wears the crown of peacock feathers). Now all of you face abuses. I have been defamed the most. Then Prajapita Brahma is also abused. Friends and relatives etc. become angry. Vishnu or Shankar will not be abused. The Father says – I am abused. You have become children; so you also have to get a share (of abuses). Otherwise, this one was engaged in his business; there was no question of abuses at all. I am abused more than anyone else. They have forgotten their dharma and karma.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 27.12.07, pg 4 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post21 Apr 2008

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"दूसरी बात - बाबा समझाते हैं कभी भी पढ़ाई नहीं छोड़ना। भल ब्राह्मणी से नहीं बनती है, दिल हट जाती है परन्तु पढ़ाई जरूर पढ़नी है। बाबा को समाचार देते रहना है। आखिर बाबा मतभेद मिटा देंगे। मतभेद के कारण बहुत बच्चे अपना खाना खराब कर देते हैं, (रजिस्टर पर दाग लगा देते हैं), पढ़ाई छोड़ देते हैं। पढ़ाई कोई भी हालत में छोड़नी नहीं चाहिए।...कोई कच्चे भी हैं, भूलें करते होंगे। सेन्सीबुल बच्चे जो हैं, फट से समाचार लिखेंगे। कोई देखते हैं कि फलाने में अभी तक क्रोध है तो उनसे दिल हट जाती है फिर घर बैठ जाते हैं। कोई ब्राह्मणी भी कह देती है कि तुम इस सेन्टर पर मत आओ।....बाप से नहीं रूठते हैं परन्तु ब्राह्मणियों से रूठते हैं। बाबा तो यहाँ बैठा है। शिवबाबा से रूठा तो खत्म हो जायेंगे। बाबा के सिवाए मुरली कैसे सुन सकेंगे।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक २८.१२.०७, पृ.१ एवं २)

"Doosri baat – Baba samjhaatey hain kabhi bhi padhaai nahee chodnaa Bhal Brahmani say nahee banti hai, dil hat jaati hai parantu padhaai jaroor padhnee hai. Baba ko samaachaar detey rahnaa hai. Aakhir Baba matbhed mitaa dengey. Matbhed ke kaaran bahut bachchey apnaa khana kharaab kar detey hain, (register par daag lagaa detey hain) padhaai chod detey hain. Padhaai koi bhi haalat may chodnee nahee chaahiye. ....Koi kachchey bhi hain, bhoolein kartey hongey. Sensible bachchey jo hain, fat say samachaar likhengey. Koi dekhtey hain ki falaaney may abhi tak krodh hai toh unsay dil hat jaati hai fir ghar baith jaatey hain. Koi Brahmani bhi kah deti hai ki tum is center par mat aao....Baap say nahee roothtey hain parantu Brahmaniyon say roothtey hain. Baba toh yahaan baitha hai. ShivBaba say rootha toh khatma ho jaayengey. Baba kay sivaay Murli kaisey sun sakengey." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 28.12.07, pg 1&2)

“Second thing – Baba explains that you should never leave the studies. Although you cannot adjust with the Brahmani, although you become disheartened, but you have to certainly study. You should keep reporting to Baba. Ultimately Baba would remove all the differences of opinion. Because of differences of opinion many children spoil their fate (i.e. the make their register/record stained), they leave the studies. One should not leave the studies under any circumstance. Many experience downfall like this. ....Some are also immature; they must be committing mistakes. Those children who are sensible will report (to Baba) immediately. Some see that a particular person is still wrathful; so they become disheartened and sit at home. There are some Brahmanis also who say that you do not come to this center.....They do not become displeased with Baba, but they become displeased with the Brahmanis. Baba is sitting here. If you become displeased with ShivBaba then you will perish. How can you listen to Murli without Baba.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 28.12.07, pg 1&2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post22 Apr 2008

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दूसरी बात जो कभी ध्यान का पार्ट चलता है फलानी में मम्मा आई, बाबा आया - यह भी माया है। बहुत खबरदारी से चलना है। बात कैसे करते हैं, उससे समझ जाना है। कोई-कोई में माया का भूत आ जाता है फिर कहते हैं शिवबाबा आया, मुरली चलाते हैं - यह सब माया विघ्न डालती है। बहुत ट्रेटर निकल जाते हैं। बहुत धोखा देते हैं। इन सब बातों से बहुत सम्भाल करनी है। पढ़ाई पर पूरा ध्यान देना है। नहीं तो माया बहुत हैरान करेगी। (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक २८.१२.०७, पृ.२)

"Doosri baat jo kabhi dhyaan ka part chaltaa hai falaani may Mama aai, Baba aaya – yah bhi Maya hai. Bahut khabardaari say chalnaa hai. Baat kaisey kartey hain, us say samajh jana hai. Koi-koi may Maya ka bhoot aa jaataa hai fir kahtey hain ShivBaba aaya, Murli chalaatey hain – yah sab Maya vighna daalti hai. Bahut traitor nikal jaatey hain. Bahut dhokha detey hain. In sab baaton say bahut sambhaal karnee hai. Padhaai par poora dhyaan dena hai. Nahee toh Maya bahut hairaan karegi." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 28.12.07, pg 2)

“Second thing – the part of trance that is played sometimes; Mama came, Baba came in a particular person – this is also (a form of) Maya. One should tread very carefully. One should understand from the way a person talks. The ghost of Maya enters in some; then they say that ShivBaba came; they narrate Murli – all these are obstacles created by Maya. Many turn out to be traitors. Many dupe. One should be very careful about all these things. One should pay full attention to the studies. Otherwise Maya would trouble a lot.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 28.12.07, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post23 Apr 2008

151.
"अब बाप तुम बच्चों को सम्मुख समझा रहे हैं, मैं फिर से आया हूँ तुमको राजयोग सिखलाने। कृष्ण के ८४ जन्मों के अन्त में मैंने प्रवेश किया है, इनका नाम ब्रह्मा रखा है। मुझे ब्रह्मा जरूर चाहिए तो प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी चाहिए। जिसमें प्रवेश करके आऊं, नहीं तो कैसे आऊं? यह मेरा रथ मुकरर है। कल्प-कल्प इसमें ही आता हूँ। लिखा भी हुआ है ब्रह्मा द्वारा स्थापना। किसकी? विष्णुपुरी की।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक २८.१२.०७, पृ.३)

"Ab Baap tum bachchon ko sammukh samjha rahey hain, mai fir say aaya hoon tumko rajyog sikhlaaney. Krishna ke 84 janmon kay ant may mainey pravesh kiya hai, inka naam Brahma rakha hai. Mujhey Brahma jaroor chaahiye toh Prajapita Brahma bhi chaahiye. Jismay pravesh karke aaun, nahee toh kaisey aaun? Yah mera rath mukarrar hai. Kalpa-kalpa ismay hee aataa hoon. Likha bhi hua hai Brahma dwara sthaapnaa. Kiskee? Vishnupuri kee." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 28.12.07, pg 3)

“Now the Father is explaining to you children face to face that I have come once again to teach you rajyog. I have entered at the end of the 84 births of Krishna. I have named this one as Brahma. I certainly require Brahma as well as Prajapita Brahma, in whom I could enter and come. Otherwise, how would I come? This Chariot of mine is the appointed one. I come only in this every Kalpa. It has also been written that establishment takes place through Brahma. Of what? Of the abode of Vishnu.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 28.12.07, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post24 Apr 2008

152.
"आज बाबा बच्ची से पूछ रहा था कि तुम जानती हो कि हम किसके रथ की सेवा कर रहे हैं। घोड़े की सम्भाल करने वाला समझेगा कि हम फलाने साहेब के घोड़े की सम्भाल कर रहे हैं। तुम भी जानते हो यह किसका रथ है। अगर शिवबाबा को याद कर तुम इस रथ की सेवा करो तो तुम बहुतों से अच्छा पद पा सकती हो। यह हुआ रथ, याद तो शिवबाबा को करना है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक २९.१२.०७, पृ.२)

"Aaj Baba bachchi say pooch raha tha kii tum jaanti ho ki ham kiskay rath kee seva kar rahey hain. Ghodey kee sambhaal karney vala samjhega ki ham falaaney saaheb ke ghodey kee sambhaal kar rahey hain. Tum bhi jaantey ho yah kiska rath hai. Agar ShivBaba ko Yaad kar tuum is rath kee seva karo toh tum bahuton say achcha pad pa sakteee ho. Yah hua rath, Yaad toh ShivBaba ko karnaa hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 29.12.07, pg 2)

“Today Baba was asking daughter that – do you know whose Chariot are you serving? The one who takes care of horses would think that I am taking care of the horse of a particular master. You also know – whose Chariot is this. If you serve the Chariot while remembering ShivBaba then you can achieve a post higher than many. This is the Chariot; (but) one has to remember ShivBaba.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 29.12.07, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"तुम कोई गुरू गोसांई आदि के आगे नहीं आये हो। तुम जानते हो कि हम बेहद बाप के आगे बैठे हैं। बेहद का बाप मधुबन में आया है। वो लोग कहते हैं कृष्ण मधुबन में आया, परन्तु नहीं। बेहद के बाप की ही मुरली मधुबन में बजती है। बाप समझाते हैं मैं कल्प-कल्प संगमयुग पर आता हूँ न कि युगे-युगे, यह भूल कर दी है जो कहते हैं युगे-युगे आता है। यह जो भी शास्त्र आदि हैं यह सब भक्ति के हैं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ३०.१२.०७, पृ.१)

"Tum koi guru-gosain aadi kay aagey nahee aaye ho. Tum jaantey ho ki ham behad baap ke aagey baithey hain. Behad ka baap Madhuban may aaya hai. Voh log kahtey hain Krishna Madhuban may aaya, parantu nahee. Behad ke baap kee hee Murli Madhuban may bajtee hai. Baap samjhaatey hain mai kalpa-kalpa Sangamyug par aata hoon na ki yugey-yugey, yah bhool kar dee hai jo kahtey hain yugey-yugey aata hai. Yah joa bhi shastra aadi hain yah sab Bhakti kay hain." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 30.12.07, pg 1)

“You have not come in front of a guru-gosain, etc. You know that we are sitting in front of the unlimited Father. The unlimited Father has come to Madhuban. Those people say that Krishna came to Madhuban. But, no. It is the Murli (flute) of the unlimited Father Himself that is played in Madhuban. The Father explains - I come at the Confluence Age of every Kalpa and not in every Age (of a Kalpa). It is a mistake to say that He comes in every Age/Era. All these scriptures etc. are of Bhakti.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 30.12.07, pg 1 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"बच्चे जानते हैं मात-पिता बिगर कभी मनुष्य सृष्टि रची नहीं जा सकती। ऐसे नहीं कहेंगे कि पिता द्वारा सृष्टि रची जाती है, नहीं। गाया ही जाता है तुम मात-पिता...यह मात-पिता सृष्टि रचकर फिर उन्हों को लायक बनाते हैं। यह बड़ी खूबी है। ऐसे तो नहीं ऊपर से देवतायें आकर धर्म स्थापन करेंगे। जैसे क्राइस्ट क्रिश्चियन धर्म की स्थापना करते हैं। तो क्राइस्ट को भी क्रिश्चियन लोग फादर कहते हैं। अगर फादर है तो मदर भी जरूर चाहिए। उन्होने मदर रखा है मेरी को। अब मेरी कौन थी? क्या क्राइस्ट ने उन द्वारा बच्चे पैदा किये? वा खुद ही फादर भी है तो मदर भी है? क्राइस्ट की नई आत्मा ने आकर तन में प्रवेश किया तो जिसमें प्रवेश किया, उसके मुख से प्रजा रची। वह हो गये क्रिश्चियन।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०१.०१.०८, पृ.१)

"Bachchey jaantey hain maat-pita bigar kabhi manushya srishti rachee nahee jaa saktee. Aisey nahee kahengey ki pita dwara srishti rachee jaati hai, nahee. Gaayaa hee jaataa hai tum maat-pitaa……yah maat-pita srishti rachkar fir unho ko laayak banaatey hain. Yah badee khoobi hai. Aisey toh nahee oopar say devtaaen aakar dharma sthaapan karengey. Jaisey Christ Christian dharma kee sthaapan kartey hain. Toh Christ ko bhi Christian log Father kahtey hain. Agar Father hai toh mother bhi jaroor chaahiye. Unhonay mother rakha hai ‘Mary’ ko. Ab Mary kaun thi? Kya Christ nay un dwara bachchey paida kiye? Va khud hee Father bhi hai toh mother bhi hai? Christ kee nayee aatmaa nay aakar tan may pravesh kiya toh jismay pravesh kiya, uskay mukhh say praja rachee. Vah ho gaye Christian." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 01.01.08, pg 1)

“Children know that the human world can never be created without the mother and the Father. It will not be said that the world is created through the Father; no. It is always sung – You are my mother and my Father (tum maat-pitaa)....This mother and the Father create the world and make them worthy. It is a very big specialty. It is not as if the deities will come from above and establish (their) religion. For example Christ establishes Christianity. So, Christians call Christ also as (their) Father. If there is a Father then a mother is also definitely required. They have designated ‘Mary’ as the mother. Well, who was Mary? Did Christ give birth to children through her? Or is he the Father as well as the mother himself? The new soul of Christ came and entered in a body. So, the one in whom he entered, he created subjects (praja) through his mouth. They happen to be the Christians.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 01.01.08, pg 1 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"यह भी समझाया गया है कि नई आत्मा जो ऊपर से आती है, उनका ऐसा कोई कर्म नहीं है जो दुःख भोगे। पवित्र आत्मा आती है। जैसे परमपिता परमात्मा कभी दुःख नहीं भोग सकता। दुःख अथवा गाली आदि सब इस साकार को देते हैं। तो क्राइस्ट को भी जब क्रास पर चढ़ाया तो जरूर जिस तन में क्राइस्ट की आत्मा ने प्रवेश किया उसने ही यह दुःख सहन किया। क्राइस्ट की प्युअर सोल तो दुःख नहीं सहन कर सकती।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०१.०१.०८, पृ.१ एवं २)

"Yah bhi samjhaya gaya hai ki nayee aatmaa jo oopar say aati hai, unka aisa koi karma nahee hai jo dukh bhogey. Pavitra aatma aati hai. Jaisey Parampita Parmatma kabhi dukh nahee Bhog saktaa. Dukh athava gaali aadi sab is saakaar ko detey hain. Toh Christ ko bhi jab cross par chadhaya toh jaroor jis tan may Christ kee aatmaa nay pravesh kiya usnay hee yah dukh sahan kiya. Christ kee pure soul toh dukh nahee sahan kar saktee." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 01.01.08, pg 1&2)

“It is also explained that a new soul that comes from above has not performed any such karma that it has to experience sorrows. It comes as a pure soul. Just as the Supreme Father Supreme Soul can never experience sorrows. It is this corporeal who faces all the sorrows and abuses, etc. So, even when Christ was put on the cross, it was definitely the soul in whose body the soul of Christ entered tolerated this pain. The pure soul of Christ cannot experience sorrows.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 01.01.08, pg 1&2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"तो क्राइस्ट हुआ फादर। माँ कहाँ से लावे। फिर मेरी को मदर बना दिया है। दिखाते हैं मेरी कुमारी थी उनसे क्राइस्ट पैदा हुआ। अब कुमारी से बच्चा पैदा हो यह बिल्कुल बेकायदे है। यह सब शास्त्रों से उठाया है। दिखाया है ना कुन्ती कन्या थी उनसे कर्ण पैदा हुआ। अब यह दिव्य दृष्टि की बात है। परन्तु उन्होंने फिर कापी किया है। तो जैसे यह ब्रह्मा मदर है। मुख द्वारा बच्चे पैदा कर फिर सम्भालने के लिए मम्मा को दिया। तो क्राइस्ट का भी ऐसे है। क्राइस्ट ने प्रवेश कर धर्म की स्थापना की। उनको कहेंगे क्राइस्ट की मुख वंशावली भाई और बहन। क्रिश्चियन का प्रजापिता हो गया क्राइस्ट। जिसमें प्रवेश कर बच्चे पैदा किये वह हो गई माता। फिर सम्भालने लिये दिया मेरी को, उन्होंने मेरी को मदर समझ लिया है। यहाँ तो बाप कहते हैं मैं इनमें प्रवेश कर मुख सन्तान रचता हूँ। तो उसमें यह मम्मा भी मुख सन्तान ठहरी। यह हैं डिटेल में समझने की बातें।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०१.०१.०८, पृ.२)

"Toh Christ hua Father. Maa kahaan say laavey! Fir Mary ko mother banaa diya hai. Dikhaatey hain Mary Kumari thi, unsay Christ paida hua. Ab Kumari say bachcha paida ho yah bilkul bekaaydey hai. Yah sab shaastron say uthaya hai. Dikhaya hai na kunti kanya thi unsay karna paida hua. Ab yah divya drishti kee baat hai. Parantu unhonay fir copy kiya hai. Toh jaisey yah Brahma mother hai. Mukhh dwara bachchey paida kar fir sambhaalney ke liye Mama ko diya. Toh Christ ka bhi aisey hai. Christ nay pravesh kar dharma kee sthaapnaa kee. Unko kahengey Christ kee mukhvanshavali Bhai aur Bhen. Christian ka Prajapita ho gaya Christ. Jismay pravesh kar bachchey paida kiye vah ho gayee mata. Fir sambhaalney liye diya Mary ko, unho nay Mary ko mother samajh liya hai. Yahaan toh Baap kahtey hain mai inmay pravesh kar mukhh santaan rachtaa hoon. Toh usmay yah Mama bhi mukhh santaan thahree. Yah hai detail may samajhney kee baatein." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 01.01.08, pg 2)

“So, Christ happens to be the Father (of Christians). From where should he get the mother! So, Mary has been made the mother. It is shown that Mary was a virgin. Christ was born from her. Well, a virgin giving birth to a child is completely against the rules. All this has been lifted (i.e. copied) from (Hindu) scriptures. It has been shown (in Mahabharata) that Kunti was a virgin. Karna was born from her. Well this is a matter of divine vision. But they have then copied it. So, just as this Brahma is a mother. He gave birth to children through the mouth and then entrusted them to Mama for taking care of them. So, the case of Christ is also similar. Christ entered (in a body) and established a religion. They will be called the mouthborn progeny of Christ, i.e. Brothers and Sisters. The Prajapita of Christians is Christ. The one in whom he entered and gave birth to children happens to be the mother. Then they were entrusted to Mary for taking care of them; they (i.e. the Christians) have considered Mary to be the mother. Here, the Father says – I enter and create mouth born children. So, among them this Mama is also a mouthborn child. These are matters to be understood in detail.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 01.01.08, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"दूसरी बात - बाप समझाते हैं आज एक पार्टी आबू में आने वाली है - वेजीटेरियन का प्रचार करने। तो उनको समझाना है बेहद का बाप अब देवी-देवता धर्म की स्थापना कर रहे हैं जो पक्के वेजीटेरियन थे। और कोई भी धर्म इतना वेजीटेरियन होता नहीं है। अब यह सुनायेंगे कि वैष्णव बनने में कितने फायदे हैं। परन्तु सब तो बन नहीं सकते क्योंकि बहुत हिरे हुए हैं। (आदत पड़ी हुई है) छोड़ना बड़ा मुश्किल है। परन्तु इस पर समझाना है कि बेहद के बाप ने जो हेविन स्थापन किया है, उसमें सभी वैष्णव अर्थात् विष्णु की वंशावली थे। देवतायें बिल्कुल वाइसलेस थे। आजकल के वेजीटेरियन तो विशश हैं।....जैसे फारेनर्स आते हैं तो उनको भारत की महिमा बतानी चाहिए कि क्राइस्ट से ३ हजार वर्ष पहले भारत ऐसा वेजीटेरियन था, ऐसा कोई हो नहीं सकता। उनमें बहुत ताकत थी।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०१.०१.०८, पृ.२)

"Doosri baat – Baap samjhaatey hain aaj ek party Abu may aaney vaali hai – vegetarian ka prachaar karney. Toh unko samjhana hai behad ka Baap ab devi-devtaa dharma kee sthaapnaa kar rahey hain jo pakkey vegetarian thay. Aur koi bhi dharma itnaa vegetarian hota nahee hai. Ab yah sunaayengey ki Vaishnav ban-ney may kitney faaydey hain. Parantu sab toh ban nahee saktey kyonki bahut hirey huay hain (aadat padee hui hai) chodnaa badaa mushkil hai. Parantu is par samjhana hai ki behad ke Baap nay jo heaven sthaapan kiya hai, usmay sabhi Vaishnav arthaat Vishnu kee vanshavali thay. Devtaen bilkul viceless thay. Aajkal ke vegetarian toh vicious hain ... Jaisey foreigners aatey hain toh unko Bhaarat kee mahima bataani chaahiye ki Christ say 3 hazaar varsh pehley Bhaarat aisa vegetarian tha, aisa koi ho nahee saktaa. Unmay bahut taakat thi." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 01.01.08, pg 2)

“Second thing – The Father explains – today a party is going to come to Abu – to propagate vegetarianism. So, they should be explained that the unlimited Father is now establishing the deity religion, who were firm vegetarians. No other religion is so vegetarian. Well, they will tell that there are so many benefits in becoming Vaishnav. But everyone cannot become because they are very habituated (to eating non-vegetarian food). It is very difficult to leave. But one must explain on it that in the heaven that the unlimited Father had established, everyone was Vaishnav, i.e. the descendants of Vishnu. Deities were completely viceless. Today’s vegetarians are vicious ... For example, when the foreigners come, they should be told about the glory of India that 3 thousand years before Christ India was such a vegetarian; nobody can be like that. They had a lot of power.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 01.01.08, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"तुमको बहुत नशा होना चाहिए। वह लोग तो मुफ्त अपना नाम निकालने के लिए माथा मार रहे हैं। खर्चा तो गवर्मेन्ट से मिल जाता है। सन्यासियों को तो बहुत पैसे मिलते हैं। अभी भी कहते हैं भारत का प्राचीन योग सिखलाने जाते हैं तो झट पैसे देंगे। बाबा को तो किसी के पैसे की दरकार नहीं। यह खुद सारी दुनिया को मदद करने वाला भोला भण्डारी है, मदद मिलती है बच्चों की। हिम्मते बच्चे मददे बाप। जब कोई बाहर से आते हैं तो हिरे हुए हैं, समझते हैं आश्रम है कुछ देवें। परन्तु तुमको बोलना है क्यों देते हो? ज्ञान तो कुछ सुना नहीं है। कुछ पता नहीं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०१.०१.०८, पृ.३)

"Tumko bahut nasha hona chaahiye. Vah log toh muft apnaa naam nikaalney ke liye matha maar rahey hain. Kharcha toh Government say mil jata hai. Sanyasiyon ko toh bahut paisey miltey hain. Abhi bhi kahtey hain Bhaarat ka praacheen Yoga sikhlaaney jaatey hain toh jhat paisey dengey. Baba ko toh kisi ke paisey kee darkaar nahee. Yah khud saari duniya ko madad karney vala bhola bhandari hai, madad miltee hai bachchon kee. Himmatey bachchey madadey Baap. Jab koi baahar say aatey hain toh hirey huay hain, samajhtey hain aashram hai kuchh devein. Parantu tumko bolnaa hai –kyon detey ho? Gyaan toh kuch sunaa nahee hai. Kuch pataa nahee." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 01.01.08, pg 3)

“You should be very intoxicated. Those people are simply breaking their heads to earn fame. They get the amount from the Government. Sanyasis get a lot of money. Even now they say – if we go to teach the ancient Yoga of India, then they will immediately give money. Baba does not need anybody’s money. This one is a bhola bhandari (a title of Shiv) who Himself helps the entire world; He gets help from the children. When children show courage, the Father gives help. When someone comes from outside, they are habituated; they think that they should give something to the ashram (center). But you should tell – why do you give us? You have not listened to The Knowledge. You don’t know anything.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 01.01.08, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"यहाँ तो सब बच्चे हैं। फालोअर्स नहीं हैं। यह तो फैमली है। हम ईश्वर की फैमली हैं। असुल में तो हम सब आत्माएं परमपिता परमात्मा के बच्चे हैं तो फैमली हुई ना। वह निराकार फिर साकार में आते हैं। इस समय यह वन्डरफुल फैमली है, इसमें संशय की बात ही नहीं। शिव की सभी सन्तान हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की सन्तान भी गाये हुए हैं। हम ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां हैं, नई सृष्टि की स्थापना हो रही है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०१.०१.०८, पृ.2)

"Yahaan toh sab bachchey hain. Followers nahee hain. Yah toh family hai. Ham Eeshwar kee family hain. Asul may toh ham sab aatmaen Parampita Paramatma kay bachchey hain toh family hui na. Vah niraakaar fir saakaar may aatey hain. Is samay yah wonderful family hai, ismay sanshay kee baat hi nahee. Shiv kee sabhi santaan hain. Prajapita Brahma kee santaan bhi gaaye huay hain. Ham Brahmakumar-kumariyaan hain, nayee srishti kee sthaapnaa ho rahee hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 02.01.08, pg 2)

“Here everyone is a child. They are not followers. This is a family. We belong to God’s family. Actually, we all souls are children of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul; so it is a family, isn’t it? That incorporeal then comes in a corporeal. Now this is a wonderful family; there is no question of doubt in it at all. Everyone is a child of Shiv. Prajapita Brahma’s children are also famous. We are Brahmakumar-kumaris; the new world is getting established.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 02.01.08, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"अब बाबा हमको आप समान त्रिकालदर्शी, त्रिलोकीनाथ बनाते हैं। ब्रह्माण्ड का मालिक भी बनते हैं, फिर सृष्टि के मालिक भी हम बनते हैं। बाप ने बच्चों की महिमा अपने से भी उंच की है। सारी सृष्टि में ऐसा बाप कभी देखा जो बच्चों के ऊपर इतनी मेहनत करे और अपने से भी तीखा बनाये। कहते हैं तुम बच्चों को विश्व की बादशाही देता हूँ, मैं नहीं भोगता। बाकी दिव्य दृष्टि की चाबी मैं अपने हाथ में रखता हूँ। भक्ति मार्ग में भी मुझे काम में आती है। अब भी ब्रह्मा का साक्षात्कार कराता हूँ कि इस ब्रह्मा के पास जाकर राजयोग सीख भविष्य प्रिन्स बनो। यह तो बहुतों को साक्षात्कार होता है। प्रिन्स तो सभी ताज सहित होते हैं। बाकी बच्चों को यह पता नहीं पड़ता कि सूर्यवंशी प्रिन्स का साक्षात्कार हुआ वा चन्द्रवंशी प्रिन्स का।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०२.०१.०८, पृ.३)

"Ab Baba hamko aap samaan trikaaldarshi, trilokinath banaatey hain. Brahmaand ka maalik bhi bantey hain, fir srishti kay maalik bhi ham bantey hain. Baap nay bachchon kee mahima apney say bhi oonch kee hai. Saari srishti may aisa Baap kabhi dekha jo bachchon kay oopar itnee mehnat karey aur apney say bhi teekha banaaye! Kahtey hain tum bachchon ko vishwa kee baadshaahi deta hoon, mai nahee bhogtaa. Baaki divya drishti kee chaabi mai apney haath may rakhtaa hoon. Bhakti marg may bhi mujhey kaam may aati hai. Ab bhi Brahma ka saakshaatkaar karaataa hoon ki is Brahma kay paas jaakar Rajyog seekh bhavishya Prince bano. Yah toh bahuton ko saakshaatkaar hota hai. Prince toh sabhi taaj sahit hotey hain. Baaki bachchon ko yah pataa nahee padtaa ki Sooryavanshi Prince ka saakshaatkaar hua va Chandravanshi Prince ka."
(Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 02.01.08, pg 3)

“Now Baba makes us Trikaaldarshi (knower of the three aspects of the time) and Trilokinath (Master of the Three Worlds) like Him. We also become the master of the universe (brahmaand). Then we become the master of the world as well. The Father has glorified the children more than Himself. Have you seen a Father in the entire world who works so hard on the children and makes them sharper than himself? He says – I give you children the emperorship of the world. I do not enjoy it. As regards the key to visions, I keep it with myself. It proves useful to me in the path of worship also. Even now, I also cause the visions of Brahma (directing them) that go to this Brahma and learn Rajyog and become Princes in future. Many people have this vision. All the Princes wear crowns. But the children don’t come to know whether they had the vision of Suryavanshi Prince (i.e. belonging to the Sun Dynasty) or of Chandravanshi Prince (belonging to the Moon Dynasty).” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 02.01.08, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"किसको अच्छी रीति समझाने की मेहनत करनी पड़ती है। १००-५० को समझाएं तब उनसे कोई एक निकले। जिसकी तकदीर में होगा वह कोटों में कोई निकलेगा। आप समान बनाने में टाइम लगता है। बाकी साहूकार का आवाज़ बड़ा होता है। मिनिस्टर के पास जाते हैं तो पहले वह पूछते हैं आपके पास कोई मिनिस्टर आता है? जब सुनाते हैं कि हाँ आते हैं तो कहेंगे अच्छा हम भी चलते हैं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०२.०१.०८, पृ.३)

"Kisko achchi reeti samjhaaney kee mehnat karnee padtee hai. 100-50 ko samjhaayein tab unsay koi ek nikley. Jiskee takdeer may hoga vah koto may koi niklega. Aap samaan banaaney may time lagtaa hai. Baaki saahookaar ka aawaaz badaa hota hai. Minister kay paas jaatey hain toh pehley vah poochtey hain aapke paas koi Minister aata hai? Jab sunaatey hain ki haan aatey hain toh kahengey achcha ham bhi chaltey hain." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 02.01.08, pg 3)

“Explaining anyone properly requires a lot of efforts. If you explain to 100-50 (souls), then one may emerge from among them. One among crores, who is fortunate enough, would emerge. It takes time to make (someone) equal to oneself. As regards the prosperous ones, their voice is loud (i.e. heard by many). If we go to a Minister, then he first of all asks – Does any Minister come to you? When he is told that – Yes, they do come; then they say – OK, I will also come.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 02.01.08, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Re: Extracts from the Sakar Murlis published by BKs

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“अपना चार्ट लिखना है, कितना समय हम योग में रहते हैं। ऐसे नहीं हर एक रेगुलर चार्ट लिखेंगे। नहीं, थक जाते हैं। वास्तव में क्या करना है? रोज़ अपना मुँह आइने में देखना है, तो पता पड़ेगा कि हम लक्ष्मी को वा सीता को वरने लायक हैं वा प्रजा में चले जायेंगे? पुरुषार्थ तीव्र कराने के लिए चार्ट लिखने को कहा जाता है और देख भी सकते हैं कि हमने कितना समय शिवबाबा को याद किया? सारी दिनचर्या सामने आ जाती है। जैसे छोटेपन से लेकर सारे आयु की जीवन याद रहती है ना। तो क्या एक दिन का याद नहीं पड़ेगा। देखना है हम बाबा को और चक्र को कितना समय याद करते हैं? ऐसी प्रैक्टिस करने से रूद्र माला में पिरोने के लिए दौड़ी जल्द पहनेंगे।“ (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०४.०१.०८, पृ.२)

"Apna chart likhna hai, kitnaa samay ham Yoga may rahtey hain. Aisey nahee har yek regular chart likhengey. Nahee, thak jaatey hain. Vaastav may kya karnaa hai? Roz apnaa muh aainey may dekhnaa hai, toh pataa padega ki ham Lakshmi ko va Sita ko varney laayak hain va praja may chaley jaayengey? Purusharth teevra karaaney ke liye chart likhney ko kahaa jaataa hai aur dekh bhi saktey hain ki hamney kitnaa samay ShivBaba ko Yaad kiya? Saari dincharya samney aa jaati hai. Jaisey choteypan say lekar saarey aayu kee jeevan Yaad rahtee hai na! Toh kya ek din ka Yaad nahee padega. Dekhna hai ham Baba ko aur chakra ko kitnaa samay Yaad kartey hain? Aisi practice karney say Rudramala may pironey ke liye daudi jald pehnengey." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 04.01.08, pg 2)

“One must write his/her chart. How long do we remain in Yoga? It is not as if everyone would write chart regularly. No, they become tired. Actually, what should be done? One should see his/her face in the mirror everyday; then one would know that – are we worthy of getting married to Lakshmi or Sita or will we become subjects? It is told to write charts only to increase the speed of making efforts. And one can also see as to how long I remembered ShivBaba? The entire daily routine comes in front of us. Just as we remember the entire lifespan from childhood onwards, don’t we? So, can’t we recollect a day’s chart? One must check as to how long do we remember Baba and The Cycle? By practicing this we can get threaded in the Rudramala very soon.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 04.01.08, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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