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bansy
Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 84
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: Because we are not ready |
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Hi, I'm new to this forum.
Thanks to admin and everyone for being so lively.
I have been told by BKs that because "we are not ready" hence the knowledge (of 5000 years, destruction, advance party etc) has not been yet given by ShivBaba in murlis. So we are told to hold onto this line, become pure and follow shrimat, so on the "day of destruction" all will be revealed.
Now, as a school teacher, I would not tell my students to wait until after their exams why they studied their subjects. I would expect them to know why they are learning and would answer whatever is on their mind. Otherwise it is just "rote learning" and where is the motivation in that ?
Has anyone else been told "we are not ready" so that knowledge is held back ?
Quest for truth and love to all
bansy |
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John
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 157 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Bansy
I would think the opposite is true, when we recieve this knowledge then we can be ready. |
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ex-london
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 131
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject: the " Jam Tomorrow " trick |
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bansy wrote: | Has anyone else been told "we are not ready" so that knowledge is held back ? |
I'd say that this was absolutely not a direct instruction from the Source of B.K. Raja Yoga, i.e. who or what ever is inspiring it all but an entirely human interjection. A device often used in religious groups that you intuit perfectly.
Some one once defined it to me as the ;
" Jam Tomorrow " trick.
Work hard, make sacrifices, don't question and, *YES*, you to will have jam tomorrow ... but tomorrow never comes.
If you are newish to B.K. Raja Yoga we'd be interested to hear what they are saying to people these days.
Play the lawyer and ask them to show you the Murlis where that is said and if not, pull them up in front of a senior sister! |
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zhukov
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 86
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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ex-london wrote: | Some one once defined it to me as the ;
" Jam Tomorrow " trick.
Work hard, make sacrifices, don't question and, *YES*, you to will have jam tomorrow ... but tomorrow never comes.
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Sounds like what was also the dogma of communism lol |
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bansy
Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 84
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | we'd be interested to hear what they are saying to people these days.
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I did ask a senior not so long ago if she "was ready", and got the reply "no, not yet, and hence I cannot answer your question".
Well, it was an honest and direct answer, though it can often set one back students because you'll be left wondering what the next step is in this drama. And thus it all comes down to Faith in the Drama. |
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John
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 157 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:17 am Post subject: |
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PBKs claim that Shiva incarnates in one amongst them and no longer (from 1969) in the BK movement.
They claim answers to the basic knowledge (BK) can be found in there murli clarifications and all questions can be asked.
Of course belief in this claim is down to the individual |
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zhukov
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 86
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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bansy wrote: | And thus it all comes down to Faith in the Drama.
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Yeah. Which may be good enough for some but not all |
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bansy
Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 84
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | PBKs claim that Shiva incarnates in one amongst them and no longer (from 1969) in the BK movement.
They claim answers to the basic knowledge (BK) can be found in there murli clarifications and all questions can be asked. |
Does this mean PBKs "are ready" if they have all the answers ? |
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John
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 157 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Does this mean PBKs "are ready" if they have all the answers ? |
I am new to the PBK side of things. All I know so far is what i've read on the
websites and some email correspondance. I know they used to post on this forum but that was after I joined.
There is a website address on the links part of this site, plus I have some website links and email address.
It would be best to ask your question to someone more experienced in PBK matters. If you want to do that, you could email me and I'll pass on some links to you. I don't think you will find any more posts coming from them on this forum, but there is a PBK archive section. |
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