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Paul
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: Hindi before Sanskrit ? !!! |
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Gyan says that the language of the Golden Age was / will be Hindi. How can that be?!!! That would mean that Hindi precedes Prakrit and Sanskrit !!! Tell that to any Indologist, world historian or linguistic anthroplogist, and you will be laughed out of court. Simply put, to say that Hindi existed and came before Sanskrit is ridiculous. It is just further evidence (as if more was needed) that the "knowledge" is nonsensical, unhistoric and illogical.
Review your blind faith....and put on your thinking cap !!! |
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Om shanti Bhai!
Can you kindly quote the date etc. in which it was spoken in the gyan?
Take Care, |
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Paul
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Dear tropical fruit,
Are you serious? How long have you been in gyan? How many murlis have you listened to? Five? This statement - about a pure form of Hindi being the language of the deities - is in many many murlis. Just ask a BK...any BK should be able to verify this. |
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satish
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Paul
You are right, people in India believe that sanskrit, was first language that started. And all the knowledge when you say to any archeoligist or historians, probably they might not believe.
Firstly I will say historians too dont have any strong proof or clue what exactly is the form of world before 1500 yrs and so they can't just deny knowledge to be wrong. However proofs that they found about hindu temples and statues in other parts of India , like Afghanistan, combodia etc... resembles vast geographical area of India in ancient times. Also one would surprise the popularity of India for kings and queens in different states of country since its ancient times.
Secondly if Sanskrit is first language, people would never have shifted to other simple languages like hindi, tamil, etc in India. You know Sanskrit is a language which is spoken by intellectual people in ancient time and that too mostly in courts of king in India to show his/her linguistic power or some thing else. Also it is used while chanting in temples. Definitely I guess this is a language that came after Hindi and other languages. You see complexity and grammar in language grown up ( like sanskrit) as time passed by in ancient times. This looks logical. Isn't this?
thanks
with love
satish |
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Paul
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Logical? More like incoherent and jumbled. Try to take an English course or two. I say that without ill intent.
I am not saying that Sanskrit was the first language on earth. Who knows what that was? For all I know, it may have been a series of grunts. What I am saying - and what all educated people will support - is that Sanskrit definitely came long before Hindi.
Stop the insanity ! |
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satish
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Dear
I would have seen I am replying to English man, rather than XBK.
Educated people support many things that may not be true.
stop Insanity...! 
Comon, I also can say samething to you looking your inability to welcome others opinion. Hmmm.. anyways be happy, don't see my insanity too much. 
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satish |
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Om shanti Bhai Paul!
I have been busy.
I believe there is no need to insult bhai Satish.
Bhai is simply discussing yet you insult him as such.
I have read many but can you please quote a specific one that you are referring to?
Take Care, |
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administrator
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Paul,
You are close to the line.
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Paul
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:12 am Post subject: |
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OK Admin, I'll try to watch my P's and Q's  |
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uddhava
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: |
I am not saying that Sanskrit was the first language on earth. Who knows what that was? For all I know, it may have been a series of grunts. |
According to the scientific view (here from the Stanford University website), it was probably grunts…
| Quote: | It is widely accepted that population similar to Homo erectus was directly ancestral to the earliest members of living species Homo sapiens. The exact timing and mode of transformation are still controversial.
Homo erectus appears to have evolved in Africa about 1.8 million years ago. Migrations first to Asia and then to Europe. the species became extinct sometimes less than .5 million years ago. This timing places Homo erectus between Homo habilis and the earliest appearance of Homo sapiens. The time of migration out of Africa is unknown. Most scholars agreed migration occur about 1 million years ago but there is continue debate over how much earlier than this had begun.
Recently a Homo erectus lower jaw has been found in Georgia and said to be 1.6 million years ago. A number of important firsts were recorded during the Homo erectus’ existence.
• The first appearance of hominids outside of Africa.
• The first appearance of systematic hunting.
• Tool making and use of fire.
• First indication of extended childhood.
• Homo erectus was capable of a more complex life.
• The brain size was increased over halibis ranging between 850 and 1100 cm cube.
• Body size also increased. Reaching close to 1.8 meters in male and 1.55 meters in females.
• The cranium is long and low and somewhat flattened at the front and back.
• The cranial bone being thicker than in earlier hominids.
• The face is short but wide and the nasal aperture projected forward, suggesting the first appearance of the typical human external nose with the nostril facing downward. |
http://www.stanford.edu/~harryg/protected/chp22.htm |
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howiemac
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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The golden age starts with everything in its perfect form - if Sanskrit is seen as a higher language than Hindi, then it will have come first. Everything devolves /degrades to lower forms - this is entropy, one of the laws of thermodynamics...
dont believe everything you read/hear in the murli! |
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sister
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:44 am Post subject: hindi before sanskrit |
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When the Arya entered the Indus Valley and mixed with the people who were already living there, the sanskrit language developed. It should then be a mixture of 2 languages: of the Aryans and the 'Indians'. Science learns this happened around 3000-2500 B.C.
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