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Author | Message | Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: News
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Charlie Hogg interview January 17th News,Inq7
Regards, Tete |
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
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25, 2006 4:05 pm Post
subject: The nonagenarian Dadi Janki | |
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Dadi Janki's 90th birthday
party article.
Harrow Times
Regards,
Tete |
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gyaniwasi
Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 167
| Posted: Sat Jan
28, 2006 1:53 pm Post
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| Thanks for the link on Charlie Tete.
Check for reference under a...xBKs post.
Regards, Gy _________________ "Those were the
days my friend ...." |
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
| Posted: Sun Mar
05, 2006 10:02 pm Post
subject: http://positivequotes.blogspot.com/ | |
| Brahma Kumaris in Mt Abu have started a Blog with the
following:
Positivequotesblog,
Quote: | Free Positive Quotes,
Positive Thinking,Motivation Sayings,Inner Peace Thoughts,Love
Poems
Free Positive Quotes Blog - Our aim is to provide Rare Positive
Thinking Quotes, Help you to attain Inner Peace in your Life. Daily
Motivation Sayings for you to Develop Positive Thinking. Special Love
Poems, Inspiration Quotes and Thoughts to achieve Inner Peace. Develop
your soul in a right direction with our daily positive thinking quotes
and making it attractive to God. Enjoy and Feel Positive, Spread Love,
Peace and Happiness every where. |
They post a daily thought ... this may be of interest to current
BKs and others here. It is a little like their positive thoughts book
they sell. The comment section is lacking as is common with all Brama
Kumaris sites. So, here is the link:
http://positivequotes.blogspot.com/
Regards,
Tete |
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Sanvean
Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 27
| Posted: Mon Mar
06, 2006 6:53 am Post
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| Charlie Hogg interview January 17th,
2006:
Quote: | Hogg says that the less influenced you are by people, the
more you can help them. Even when a mother has a desperately sick
child, a nurse is better to look after the child because the nurse is
loving but the nurse is not so caught up in the worry. It’s a blessing
in life when you don’t feel so influenced and so sensitive."
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The past year, my son was at the hospital for three days. He was
a baby (1 year old) and he was frightened because he took medicine by
vein and It was difficult for the nurses to find the right vein... I
slept in a chair with him on my body and he slept holding his father
hand because he wants to feel secure. It was terrible. He was really
sick and frightened. When we left the hospital, doctor said that he
could has nightmares and wake up at night screaming. But there was a
chance to this not happen and he forget the hospital quickly because we,
the parents, became close all the time. We return to our home and he
never had any problem with nightmares. He continue to sleep alone in his
bedroom without problems.
I believe that parent's love cannot be substitute for any nurse.
Of course Charlie didn´t has experience in this subject and
talked about theory...
regards for all |
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Joel
Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 102
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06, 2006 4:17 pm Post
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Sanvean
wrote: | Charlie
Hogg interview January 17th, 2006:
Quote: | Hogg says that the less influenced you are by people, the
more you can help them. “Even when a mother has a desperately sick
child, a nurse is better to look after the child because the nurse is
loving but the nurse is not so caught up in the worry. It’s a
blessing in life when you don’t feel so influenced and so
sensitive." | The past year, my son was at the hospital for three days. He was
a baby (1 year old) and he was frightened because he took medicine by
vein and It was difficult for the nurses to find the right vein... I
slept in a chair with him on my body and he slept holding his father
hand because he wants to feel secure. It was terrible. He was really
sick and frightened. When we left the hospital, doctor said that he
could has nightmares and wake up at night screaming. But there was a
chance to this not happen and he forget the hospital quickly because we,
the parents, became close all the time. We return to our home and he
never had any problem with nightmares. He continue to sleep alone in his
bedroom without problems.
I believe that parent's love cannot be substitute for any nurse.
Of course Charlie doesn't has experience in this subject and
talked about theory...
regards for all |
Glad to hear your baby survived that experience with his sense of
security intact. Hospitals are sometimes helpful, always dangerous. The
only way to ensure that a loved one be safe in that environment is to
stay with the person around the clock,study the issues for yourself, be
prepared to ask questions in every single meeting, ask for extra
meetings whenever an important decision arises, review the results of
every single blood test or other lab test, make sure to repeat any tests
that show a worrisome result,and stay calm until all the data comes in.
Be cautious about pulling the trigger for some big surgical procedures
or powerful medicines; there should be convincing studies dealing with
the condition, gender and age group of your person. And then if you can
learn some alternatives to the ice pillow for fevers and the suction for
vacuuming out the person's throat, and any other techniques from
traditional medicine, you run a much greater chance of helping and a
much lower risk of injuring the person. Most medical decisions are based
on not much more than high-school level knowledge of anatomy and
biochemistry, ofen not based on knowledge at all, but merely conventions
of which the vast majority have not been scientifically reviewed.
I am not talking about the best of the best care, which can
sometimes be good, but about routine care, which is very often bad
despite honest intentions and dedication on the part of doctors and
nurses both.
That quote from Charlie is the bread-and-butter stuff they have
repeated year in and year out since I first heard such talks in early
1982. So not worth worrying about. These are the same kinds of stories
as all the knee-jerk, guilt-inducing cr*p that looking in retrospect I
can see there is nothing in it--just the faith of the fearful--so why
get upset and even bother to call it cr*p.
Someone once approached science-fiction writer Theodore Sturgeon
at a convention and said, "90% of science fiction is cr*p." His answer:
"90% of everything is cr*p." I would say that holds true for religion,
auto mechanics, and doctors, and a whole lot else.
It is a fallacy, I believe, that a formulaic application of
philsophy or technology could ever approach the successes of the
dedicated best and brilliant. "Just paint colors in these numbered areas
and you can achieve the successes of Van Gogh or El Greco." | | | |
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Kyzzie
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Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts:
8 Location: Oxfordshire
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07, 2006 1:07 pm Post
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| I agree with Tete. Babies and
children need love and care. Humans need to love and care and to be
loved and be cared for. It is an essential part of us to be in
relationship. I remember the first massage I had after leaving the BKs.
I wept out of relief from the starvation of contact. It affirmed me;
made me glad to be.
Cuddling the little ones, hugging your friends, holding the hand
of a troubled soul are just a few of the beauties of life. If that is
body consciousness, bring it on! _________________ If God wanted
me up at 4am, she would not have invented sleep. | | | |
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
| Posted: Thu Mar
09, 2006 12:23 am Post
subject: SATYUG IS AS SURE AS DEATH | |
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TO ALL:
This article is by far the most truthful I have come across in
the public arena as to the BK beliefs. The writer Suma
Varughese from www.lifepositive.com is a true credit to
journalism. Most articles I have found have been full of fluff
filled with BK PR material... this one is worth reading and is truly
objective.
For the full article click on the link below:
http://www.lifepositive.com/spirit-centers/bramha-kumari.asp
Life Positive, January 1998
Quote: | The BKs believe that as the millennium approaches, and the
calamities of Kaliyug assume more fearsome proportions, more and more
will reach their doorstep, all of whom must be accommodated. So what
horrors
lie ahead of us and what will Satyug be like? The BKs have all the
answers. The Kaliyug scenario is grim enough. America and much
of Europe will be destroyed by a nuclear bomb, and Australia will become
an island. Much of the earth's land mass will be submerged. India will
suffer a civil war. Mumbai will return to the sea. As time
goes on, grain will become inedible and there will be no drinking water.
Money will be valueless.
In order to withstand those days and give succor to the
suffering, the BKs are urged to develop themselves and become
spiritually powerful. But cheer up. All this is necessary for the
glorious dawning of Satyug. And the prognosis is good. Laxmi and Narayan
will be the ruling deities. Under them, all will live like a happy
family, without regard for status and hierarchy. There will still be
servants and masters, but the arrangements will be informal, as in a
family. While some will be wealthier than others, all will be
prosperous. There will be no courts, jails, judges or lawyers because
there will be no criminals. Likewise, since all will be free of desires,
there will be no accounting.
People give what they have and those who want take. The weather
will be perpetual spring. Fruits of all flavors will ply year round, so
that instead of cooking, all we will need is to use the juice of
whatever flavored fruit we wish for. Cooking, if any, will be by solar
power and planes, our main form of locomotion, will be sourced by atomic
power. Birdsong will be as melodious as a musical instrument, and
musical instruments themselves will play at a touch. Everyone will be an
artist, and there will be an abundance of music, art and games.
Life spans will increase to 150 years on an average. Males will
not have a beard. And yes, reproduction will transpire through yogic
power and not sexual union. Now for the catch. Only 900,000 souls will
make the grade. If you would like to be one of them, you know where to
go and what to do. |
Regards,
Tete |
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
| Posted: Mon Apr
03, 2006 1:25 pm Post
subject: There's something about falling | |
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Personal account by an XBK:
New Straits Times Online April 3
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Paul Menezes talks about his transformation and journey
through life’s peaks and valleys. ANITA ANANDARAJAH writes.
New Straits Times
Quote: | However, after 10 years in meditation, stress came back to
haunt Paul. Meditation had become his other obsession.
“Position, power and desire were overwhelming. Yoga is no
different from the outside world. I was disillusioned and frustrated
with myself for not understanding.
“People see us as humble but as time went by I felt like I was
lying. I wanted things — I wanted a car. My body doesn’t deal well with
stress. It was time to make a change again.”
He knew it was time to return to the business world.
It was a long climb from the bottom where he had to learn how to
use a computer, a skill he missed out on in the years he was away.
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bluewing
Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 21
| Posted: Mon Apr
03, 2006 7:38 pm Post
subject: article |
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| Hi, Tete,
who is this guy? how did you find this? so now he is not a BK ??
curious....but he is right: we have to feel good about ourselves
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
| Posted: Mon Apr
03, 2006 7:51 pm Post
subject: News Desk |
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| Bluewing,
I have a little news alert I use to let me know of any BK PR or
BK related stories. Some are just PR stuff and I check them out and
file them, others like this one are of value in that here you have an
XBK speaking to a newspaper and telling his story. He is honest
and has innocence about him.
I have a couple other stories I will post that just arrived at
the filter stage and will post later. This is significant as others
will begin to tell their stories too. There is hope yet.
The criteria I use is that the stories have to be BK related and
in the public domain. So, I for one am glad that he is happy and
getting on with his life and showing a big smile at that...got to love
em for that!
Regards, Tete
P.S. Drop a line if you are in my area. | | | |
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zhukov
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 86
| Posted: Mon Apr
03, 2006 10:01 pm Post
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Tete
wrote: | The BKs
have all the answers. The Kaliyug scenario is grim enough. America and
much of Europe will be destroyed by a nuclear bomb, and Australia will
become an island. Much of the earth's land mass will be submerged. India
will suffer a civil war. Mumbai will return to the sea.
| "Australia will become an
island???"
I knew the BK Seniors in India are largely uneducated,
but ... uh ....!?
Someone better call the Aust Army back from Iraq ... this is
serious! | |
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
| Posted: Sun Apr
16, 2006 2:15 pm Post
subject: Sectas: Control del espíritu y reforma de los
pensamientos |
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| Tomas, Sanvean and Bluewing,
I found this report by
Quote: | Colegio Oficial de Psicólogos de Santa Cruz de Tenerife
SECTAS DESTRUCTIVAS Y GRUPOS DE RIESGO Eloy
Rodríguez-Valdés Psicólogo-Sexólogo
Características, funcionamiento y
consecuencias psicosociales del fenómeno sectario.
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Hispavista.com
after searching an academic report review where it mentioned the
Brahma Kumaris as one sect that was studied and a mention of
interviewing ex-members. I still don't have the complete report (this
seems to be a major part of that report) and my apologies to the others
in that it is in Spanish but the material within the report merits
discussion as it mentions many of the topics that XBKs are speaking of
here, including why XBKs are here in this type of forum (it mentions it
within the report) and it gives conclusions/findings.
In the academic review where I first saw this mentioned it gave
several points in English taken from the report and one that was of
interest to me. The need to suppress, hide ones involvement in such a
group (the reasons for this) and the freedom of coming out (We see XBKs
that are already at that stage here on this forum)...coming to terms
with ones association with said group in a public way. I am not there
yet even
as an NBK but it does give me hope in knowing that eventually it will
happen...and it will be OK!
Quote: | * Brahma Kumaris (Universidad Espiritual Internacional)
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Quote: | Las Sectas Destructivas se pueden CLASIFICAR en cuatro
grandes grupos, a saber:
Sectas Destructivas: Serían aquellas sectas destructivas que no
se encuentran clasificadas en los otros tres grupos. Abarcaría a
las sectas más importantes, peligrosas, numerosas en cantidad de
adeptos y muchas de ellas con varias décadas de
existencia. Entre otras muchas cabría citarse las siguientes:
Ananda Marga, Brahma Kumaris....... |
So, in closing can you read the report and share with the others
(in related threads on the forum....) as you are all XBKs.
Thank you in advance. Tete
Zhukov,
Tete Quoted an article by writer Suma Varughese for
Life Positive
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The BKs have all the answers. The Kaliyug scenario is
grim enough. America and much of Europe will be destroyed by a nuclear
bomb, and Australia will become an island. Much of the earth's land mass
will be submerged. India will suffer a civil war. Mumbai will return to
the sea. |
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