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AndyH
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24 Aug 2005 Posts: 9 Location: UK
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: Wikipedia - A
chance for everyone to define the BKWSU | |
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Hi All,
just came across the Wikipedia section on the BKs. As you will
see the 7 Day Course sections are empty and so perhaps an opportunity
for everyone BK and Non BKs alike to contibute to a "definitive"
description of the BKs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_Organisation
Cheers
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
| Posted: Sun Mar
26, 2006 10:29 am Post
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Greetings,
Andy is right in that we need people to edit the page from time
to time. I would also encourage Arjun/PBKs (as this organization does
exist) to do the same. I agree with the Admin in placing the resource
page here. I mention this for the following reasons as of 3/26/06:
1. It would appear that the information that was placed on the
wikipedia was edited and is now just a glowing report on the BKs. They
have removed all mention of XBKchat, the Abuse Report, members having
post BK (psychological) issues etc. They have also removed any mention
of the PBKs too and the link to their site is no longer up.
2. I would say that if any one knows how to edit the wikipedia
that perhaps they could schedule a review of the page from time to time
so that at the very minimum we can have a link up to XBKchat on the
page. All current links are to BK sites.
Below is the current message under discussions placed by a BK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_Organisation
Quote: | B.K.s beware ! This is a polite warning to
followers of Brahma Kumari Raja Yoga ...
Beware, this is not an advert for Brahma Kumari Raja Yoga. This
is an objective definition of you and your path. If you are new
to Raja Yoga and unsure of what is being written here, please check with
your senior sister for accuracy before removing or editing facts.
Thank you. |
I personally think the public at large would be better suited to
be advised to be BEWARE of any organization that asks you to check with
the “SS” before thinking on your own. Just in case the new student posts some of
the truth (practices/beliefs) and secrecy!
Regards,
Tete |
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zhukov
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 86
| Posted: Sun Mar
26, 2006 8:38 pm Post
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| Mmm...^^ Heaven forbid that should
happen, Tete
what i found quite revealing was this bit. read closely:
Quote: | Beware, this is not an advert for Brahma Kumari Raja
Yoga |
Beware??
in other words, BEWARE of any information
disseminated which is NOT an advert!
Certainly reinforces the impression that you are completely
discouraged from doing any of your own thinking. Same as any cult I
guess
Just found this post on the Aust BK forum ~
Quote: | Posted: Jan 4 2006, 04:59 AM
dear bks xbk have baned me for speaking up against the xbk
discarpancy and cult leadership of xbks. xbk administrator indirectly
promote anti bk mentality and gossip. i was against this so he banned me
and kevin j*(ust few names)
jaycdp |
Cult leadership! Promoting anti BK mentality and gossip, no less!
LOL. Oohh we've been busted |
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ex-london
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 131
| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: | |
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Quote: | Beware, this is not an advert for Brahma Kumari Raja
Yoga | Beware?? |
nah, it was an ex-B.K. who wrote the warning after the article
was whitewashed by a B.K..
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Sanvean
Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 27
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27, 2006 7:39 am Post
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| Tete wrote:
Quote: | They have removed all mention of XBKchat, the Abuse
Report, members having post BK (psychological) issues etc. They have
also removed any mention of the PBKs too and the link to their site is
no longer up. |
I found this forum in Wikipedia. There was a link there. I think
is useful to put it again Of course they didn´t want to put the
link, but Wikipedia is free... |
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Sanvean
Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 27
| Posted: Mon Mar
27, 2006 7:43 am Post
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| So, I put the link
http://www.xbkchat.com in Wikipedia again.
My english is so bad to write more there | |
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Joel
Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 102
| Posted: Mon Mar
27, 2006 7:05 pm Post
subject: Wikipedia |
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Sanvean
wrote: | Tete
wrote:
Quote: | They have removed all mention of XBKchat, the Abuse
Report, members having post BK (psychological) issues etc. They have
also removed any mention of the PBKs too and the link to their site is
no longer up. |
I found this forum in Wikipedia. There was a link there. I think
is useful to put it again Of course they didn´t want to put the
link, but Wikipedia is free... |
Some one has done a lot of work on editing the article, so it now
includes everything but a link to Eugene's report on child
abuse. | |
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Tete
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 169
| Posted: Mon Mar
27, 2006 7:57 pm Post
subject: Wikipedia editing.... | |
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Joel,
Quote: | Some one has done a lot of work on editing the article, so
it now includes everything but a link to Eugene's report on child
abuse. |
Yes, some one has done a very good job indeed and hopefully will
keep a copy of what they put in so as to keep it current. I was
particularly impressed with the fact that they also included the PBK
site which shows integrity on their part (as they do exist).
So, Joel do you know how to set up a poll to see how folks found
this site? Wikipedia, Google, cult sites etc. I am most curious.
Regards,
Tete |
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ex-london
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 131
| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:41 am Post subject: Re:
Wikipedia |
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Joel
wrote: | Some one
has done a lot of work on editing the article, so it now includes
everything but a link to Eugene's report on child
abuse. |
It looks like someone fixed that too.
ex-l |
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Mr Green
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 41
| Posted: Wed Mar
29, 2006 11:58 am Post
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| good
i agree we should keep an eye on this as we all know bks are very
sneaky, (speaking as a long term ex one
they will endeavour to change it | |
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Mr Green
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 41
| Posted: Wed Mar
29, 2006 12:13 pm Post
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| in fact i have just edited it, it
said students donate regularly according to means ... this is not
true and the soul:lol: reason i left after being exploited financially
for many years, and i know of others too | |
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ex-london
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 131
| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: Tampa Bay B.K.
supporter erases the Wiki article on BKWSU | |
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Mr Green
wrote: | in fact i
have just edited it, it said students donate regularly according to
means ... this is not true and the soul:lol: reason i left after
being exploited financially for many years, and i know of others
too | Interesting ,
B.K. supporter at first removed ;
• the external links to non-BKWSU websites, • then section
refering to the P.B.K.s and others, • and then the section on
controversy such as child abuse with the BKWSU and *THEN* •
erased the whole article.
For those interested in learning how to follow edits and
revisions, follow this link ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=
Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&action=history
Joel is correct to point out there subtle ways to address matters and
that working with the system is best.
If individuals are interested in contributing and protecting the
article, best sign up with a user name and also contribute more widely
on related subjects. If you create a good reputation, you can then
become an admin which allows you to report and block persistent vandals.
If you are registered, you can have a " watchlist " and receive updates
of page changes.
Its a fantastic open source experiment and resource.
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Mr Green
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 41
| Posted: Thu Mar
30, 2006 12:42 pm Post
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| it seems the warning has been
removed, has anyone the resources to reinstate it
thanks |
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Joel
Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 102
| Posted: Thu Mar
30, 2006 2:19 pm Post
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Mr Green
wrote: | it seems
the warning has been removed, has anyone the resources to reinstate it
thanks |
I'm reading that rather than simply revert someone else's
changes, it is recommended to improve on them. Thus if a BK includes the content of the
7-day course (why not, after all it is a fact that the BKs teach such things) one can modify the
article to a neutral POV, i.e. "the BKs teach that ... " without passing
judgment.
I'd like to formally thank the Wikipedia project and its various BK/NBK/XBK
contributors for arousing the passions of this sometimes sleepy online
gathering. | |
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bansy
Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 84
| Posted: Thu Mar
30, 2006 2:52 pm Post
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Chose two dates and then compare.
| Thanks for this tip. (Wish
the same could be be done with murlis )
There's extra good stuff added such as the research paper
"Surviving Transplantation: The Brahma Kumaris in the Western World".
See the bibliography section in the wikipedia. | |
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