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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: warm and fuzzy

Is it one of the symptoms of ADHD that you don't use paragraphs .. like it is you are talking non-stop, really fast without a taking break .. Wink

Whew .. " breath in .. breath out REALLY slowly .. " and then every 3 or 4 sentences*, please, stick a paragraph break in so we can read what you right please!


* rules include making really short paragraphs to draw emphasis to single lines and editing according to importance of emphasis. Explore also the formatting tools above your input window and use the preview button below to see how it looks. Great.

primal.logic wrote:
Firstly, let me say that I am more than okay about being 'ADHD'. I have never seen it as a disorder. It is estimated that more than 1 in 10 people are. But they don't know it. They only know that they see the world differently to everyone else. And, if they are lucky enough to meet other ADHD people they realise that they share a similar map. A friend of mine was telling me that when he was still living at home his sister gave him a card with a picture of an alien on it with his name on it. This represents a lot of things - one, how much 'normal' people resent difference, how antgonistic the world is to people who are ADHD or different in other ways, and how much one feels like an alien as a result! ADHD is a difference in conciousness, not a disorder. The problem is in the disordering effect of the collective contempt of difference. This difference is nothing more than a difference in maps, it has nothing to do with diability. As Sociology puts it so nicely - 'reality is a social construction'. Reality is NOT a fundumental truth. The majority of people have constructed a collective reality, a collective map of life. ADHD has a (slightly) different map. For me, this is the essence of the conflict. And because a majority exists, they can declare themselves 'normal' and everything else 'not normal' and therefore wrong, or disordered. So what is 'normal'? It is nothing more than 'typical'. So I am not typical. For that I am grateful. ADHD people, as has been mentioned in this thread, are of above average intelligence, creative, original and lateral thinkers. And we are smart enough to argue against the dominance of a majority who are collectively as dumb as sheep. (my apologies if you are 'normal' - no offence intended). Sheep, lead by media and marketing into collective consumer behaviours, dominated by government and corporations, and blind to the whole process. Bleeting their way through life, running on the endless cycle of the treadmill they were vortexted into by their own unquestioning, unthinking typicality. So much for being 'normal'. I amy sound a little jaded, but hey, I am pretty sick of having to tolerate the imposition of their map over mine. And I find anyone who is switched onto ADHD feels the same. When I was 'diagnosed' I looked around and realised that my small circle of friends were all ADHD. Unconciously we had been drawn together by the similarity of our maps. Since then I have made something of a mission out of helping others who are ADHD but don't know it. To help them understand it a to create a justifiably positive attitude towards it. Some are very open and find freedom in knowing and acknowledging their difference and focussing on the gifts that come with that difference. Others resist because they have been diagnosed ADHD before and deeply resent being told that there is something wrong with their brain and themselves. Well, there is nothing wrong with being different, especially when ADHD brings such interesting and creative abilities. The most signifiant disappointment in my life is that the potential I have has been squandered trying to survive in society - because their map says that they are right and everyone else is wrong, and ones life gets wasted trying to establish ones own value. I think this is why I embraced gyan so actively - I gained value, I was no longer an alien and I had a purpose and a destiny. I achieved my high function state and then went and established significant service, doing new things that became standards for the organisation. I was on a roll, busy, busy busy, achieving and achieving. Sound familiar - many have noticed how frenetic the BK life of service can be. Well, my excuse is that I am hyperctive by nature. As for our beloved seniors - well I can say with certainty that many of our seniors are too - they created the benchmark of 'busy'. This is the first sign that many of them are ADHD too. Gyan is a honeypot for ADHD. I know all of our seniors intimately. I also have a clear understanding of the ADHD profile. I have no doubt that they are ADHD. Which is why those who are normal have such trouble keeping up or just staying with the program. A simple example is in the translation of the Murli. ADHD people have a tendency to be black and white thinkers, 'absolutists'. We tend to be 'all or nothing'. This features strongly in the translation of the Murli (and we all know who is ultimately responsible for the english translation so I won't mention any names) - for example Baba says 'children, you must become pure'. The english word pure is actually 3 different words in Hindi - the one westerners most identify with is 'satopradhan'. This is the absolute state of purity that we all aspire to. So every morning in Murli class westerners stress about becoming absolutely pure. Struggle and strain. However the word that translates to 'pure' in the Murli comes from the hindi word 'pavitra'. This means to be pure in the sense of following mariadas, especially celibacy. And actually we were doing that. So instead of having the satisfaction of doing what Baba was asking ie: following mariadas, we were stuck with the stress of not being satopradhan, or completely (absolutely) pure. This is what you get when someone, who is clueless about their own ADHD, translates the Murli (and I am not refering to Alka or whoever does it these days, they were all instructed by one of our most known seniors).
Anyway, I am out of time, but more later. Thanks for your interest.

Joined: 26 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: No worries


Don’t take Mr. Ex-London there too serious as I see a case of the Kettle calling the Pot black. He some times has a humorous way of putting in his request. He found it interesting, would like to read more, probably strained his eyes a bit and so on. Perhaps some #2++ glasses are needed.

This sounds like a lamas instructor to me:
Mr. Ex-London,

Whew .. " breathe in .. breath out REALLY slowly ..

He is little like an older brother who pulls your hair and then proceeds to straighten it.

I am curious if anyone ever asked him if he had ADD or ADHD. Personally I think he missed his calling and should have gone into comic relief or writing some didi of a book on the funny aspects of life….or quotes of Ex-L’s views on life.

Well, got to run…………………and yes I agree with what you wrote: The world would be so dull with everyone lining up like sheep with out the fun of having to chase the one that got out of the line running into an adventurous path. Wink



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: read slowly!

great to see you are doing your breathing exersizes ex-lon!
And yes it is an adhd trait I have noticed to write long sentences and not use paragraphs - those who are not dyslexic at least. Like Richard Branson and Kerry Packer. I will, at some point, put up a questionaire that anyone can do to see if they are ADHD. I am pushing for Dadi Janki to put it to the whole BK family. Wish me luck!

Joined: 26 Jan 2005
Posts: 169

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: No worries...


I am pushing for Dadi Janki to put it to the whole BK family. Wish me luck!

Don't hold your breathe as I witnessed first hand how quickly she can forget those that have given years of service such as your self. Sad But do report back and remember to breathe out....if she doesn't respond. Sad


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