ex-l wrote: Beyond which ... it is someone else's unpaid obligation to do so, and maintain it. Its incredible ... Why don't those individuals just start their own blog? Why does it have to be here? This site has a pretty specific remit. If you don't like it, or think you can run it better, take a copy and start you own ... or go somewhere else.
joel wrote:It belongs to all of us"
ex-l wrote:Does it? As in, "Demand the right to have someone else look after us?" Check out the copyleft link at the bottom of each page ...
Geez ex-l - thats a bit much. If 'someone' has set up a cyber-space forum such as this one and has been maintaining it as such, the expectation of such a person is that people will join the forum and use it for what it is.
An 'energetic contract' is formed between the creator of the forum and the 'member's who join it, in whatever capacity they deem they wish to be part of it. As to the 'unpaid obligation' you charge, sure I agree, these processes must cost time and money, but I'll also remind you that an aspect of this 'unpaid' and free membership was legally termed and used when the forum was under legal attack last year and it benefitted the case. Or not? ... So what gives with that? Has something changed to bring that comment out. Please advise if so.
If feeling otherwise nowadays (and all of a sudden), then in all openness 'Admin' should then comment about their willingness to continue with the forum but if help and on-line assistance is needed why are moderators not being used and appointed to assist with the process ... ?? There seemed to be a few available last year but this year where are they and what happened to them? Why were there services truly terminated?
Perhaps we can ask for a list to be posted on-forum of what is required of a moderator, energy, time and content etc and see if anyone then agrees to it? What restrictions and what ideals are required of an moderator, who 'controls' them and who administers them? Most people, I would guess, have no idea or even an inclination of how to run a forum and sure, are certainly gaining from it's presence on the www. I guess, ex forum member and moderator Bansy was asking this in her post " Who are you posting to on this forum" in some way?
As to the comment you make about, "Demand the right to have someone else look after us?" - can you try be more specific about who and what you're referring to here? I do agree that some people may need careful handling due to their 'healing crisis" they're in - but for the majority of people on this forum I'd say we're all big enough to look after ourselves and the majority are intelligent enough to 'add' to the forum and not detract from it. (Idiot posters [to use a phrase othes have used] - are generally quite quickly removed by the majority of forum members over time anyway)- I'd guess though you could/can say otherwise and I am inviting you to do so.
I am with Joel in his comment about the forum belonging to all of us, but I do add that 'belonging' and 'ownership' may not be the same ideal here ... OK, fine we can all run off and start our own 'blog' - to what end and what will that prove? Then we'll have disjointed and mixed array of processes, non factual and emotional bag of potpourri cr*p all NOT PROVING anything at all. Ray Of Light is correct, we may be being presumptious indeed and I agree that I myself just assume that the forum is 'here' every day and put little thought into the running of it, but that's how I arrived here.
Perhaps I need to change that but are you asking us to be more appreciative and if so how do we do that? Surely, those that are posting and being part of the forum are 'appreciating' it as a whole? and another question? does the forum serve its purpose or is it's purpose changing too and if so, who created that change? It's members or Admin or its creator's intentions or all?
At the end of the day even the creator/Admin of the website has need for this forum, or would not have set it up in the first place/and its members too, have need of it , or would not be part of it. Surely the best way forward is to find a way to make a) the forum creator and if not the same person/s b)Admin and of course c) its members to synch it together for
mutual benefit.
I do also say though that I agree that such a forum should grow organically and how to do that at this point seems to be frustrating many. Change is not easy.