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Hi!
This is my first post on this forum, and I am very glad to have found this website.
In 2005 I read in a newspaper that a group of police officers had gone to BK to learn how to deal with people on the street in a less aggressive way, having more control over their feelings. I thought that this was prove that BK was teaching something effective. So I went to an introductory meeting, and found it somewhat interesting -especially that the organization seemed to be run by woman- but did not pursue it any further.
Until a few weeks ago. I remembered having read a book about Raja Yoga decades ago, and my curiosity was piqued again to find out what BK taught about that. I send them an email, explaining about my personal experiences on the spiritual path, and received an invitation to get a series of one hour private teachings. I did not need to follow the beginners courses it said.
It turned out to be the same friendly lady whom I had seen giving that introductory meeting 7 years ago. She took me apart to the same hall -empty at that moment- and after a guided meditation began to explain the basic teachings with large back-lit panels on the wall as illustrations.
A few times I affirmed from my own experiences that I knew what she told me was true. But I also heard her say things I know are not so, and some that have only a symbolic meaning, not a literal one. But I said nothing not to upset her. "I'll tell her later" I thought. Until she told me she was only an instrument ... that's when I replied that Who we really are is not an instrument, although our bodies and minds can be called that. But she insisted "I am only an instrument." So I explained that looking only at the hammer a carpenter is using, he would be sorely mistaken to identify with that hammer. And that I preferred seeing her as the Carpenter -so to speak- and not as the hammer.
Then she told me that Father was incomparably above us, and that we were only His children. So I replied that if even good human parents want for their children that they be at least as happy as they are, and not less, would a God Who is all Love not desire that His children be as happy as He is? And being all powerful, could He not accomplish that? If not, His Love would be impotent. And that is far from the case.
So how could He make His children as perfectly happy as He is? By extending Himself as individualized spiritual beings, as whom at one time -when there would be billions of them- God would begin to remember as each one of them Who He is. That way all of them would know and enjoy that they are God, and realize that it was God remembering this now as them.
But to make sure they would know that the Love of Who they really are is indeed pure altruistic Love -without the least selfishness in It- God was willing to sacrifice all His joy and turn it into hell for Himself compared to His original Heavenly state. This was done by taking on the human experience. The experience of human "life" is a cross and constant dying in comparison to the real Self awareness of God. And it is He Who is experiencing being us now, in these human disguises.
She told me that I should see someone who was an incarnation of God on earth. Someone she could introduce me to. This incarnation was bringing divine messages to the world she said. This I was told yesterday.
Today I received what I thought was a newsletter, inviting one to go to some meeting in Oxford. Not seeing any reason for me to go there -it would be a few hour trip to get there- I discarded the email. Then about an hour later I received a phone call from that friendly lady, telling me that next week she could not give me the 4th private lesson, so it would have to be the week after that. And she told me about that meeting in Oxford Saturday next week, that she had send me that invitation because of me being spiritually experienced, and that there the person -I forgot the exotic sounding name- would bring a message. I told her going to Oxford was a bit difficult for me, so she suggested I think about it. She made it sound like it was a privilege to be invited to that event ...
Since I had already discarded the invitation e-mail with a photograph of a beautiful white building on it, I googled to find any info on it, hoping to see a channeling video or at least a picture of the person or -better- read a channeled text. Instead I found this website ... God does have humor: a foretaste of Heaven on earth.
To be frank, that lovely lady did not tell me anything I did not know, and many things I know are very different thank God. As God we have given our Life for these humans we seem to be, that one day also they would come to enjoy the actual knowledge that in truth they are the One Who was so Loving and Courageous to be willing to undergo this existence you are experiencing now, out of pure Altruistic Love for someone else, that someone else being you who are reading this now, God in your human disguise.
I am still a bit curious as to what exactly that channel is saying. I do know a hawk from a handsaw, and I don't want to hurt the feelings of that lady. But I would tell her what I think of any messages I know are not in accordance with the marvellous Truth about Who we really are if I went to Oxford.
If any of you would know where I can read at least one of those messages -preferably not a very old one- I would be much obliged.
Keeping my promise I will go see that dear lady in white one more time to hear what she has to say. But having browsed already a bit through some post on this forum, I am glad to know enough now not to get involved in what looks very much like a sect.
Thank you for having been willing to experience being BK's guinea pigs so others like me are saved from having to go through that to find out what is behind the front. One thing I agree with BK on though: you are angels indeed. Lovingly protecting ones to some like myself. And consoling to others.
Much Love Indeed.
This is my first post on this forum, and I am very glad to have found this website.
In 2005 I read in a newspaper that a group of police officers had gone to BK to learn how to deal with people on the street in a less aggressive way, having more control over their feelings. I thought that this was prove that BK was teaching something effective. So I went to an introductory meeting, and found it somewhat interesting -especially that the organization seemed to be run by woman- but did not pursue it any further.
Until a few weeks ago. I remembered having read a book about Raja Yoga decades ago, and my curiosity was piqued again to find out what BK taught about that. I send them an email, explaining about my personal experiences on the spiritual path, and received an invitation to get a series of one hour private teachings. I did not need to follow the beginners courses it said.
It turned out to be the same friendly lady whom I had seen giving that introductory meeting 7 years ago. She took me apart to the same hall -empty at that moment- and after a guided meditation began to explain the basic teachings with large back-lit panels on the wall as illustrations.
A few times I affirmed from my own experiences that I knew what she told me was true. But I also heard her say things I know are not so, and some that have only a symbolic meaning, not a literal one. But I said nothing not to upset her. "I'll tell her later" I thought. Until she told me she was only an instrument ... that's when I replied that Who we really are is not an instrument, although our bodies and minds can be called that. But she insisted "I am only an instrument." So I explained that looking only at the hammer a carpenter is using, he would be sorely mistaken to identify with that hammer. And that I preferred seeing her as the Carpenter -so to speak- and not as the hammer.
Then she told me that Father was incomparably above us, and that we were only His children. So I replied that if even good human parents want for their children that they be at least as happy as they are, and not less, would a God Who is all Love not desire that His children be as happy as He is? And being all powerful, could He not accomplish that? If not, His Love would be impotent. And that is far from the case.
So how could He make His children as perfectly happy as He is? By extending Himself as individualized spiritual beings, as whom at one time -when there would be billions of them- God would begin to remember as each one of them Who He is. That way all of them would know and enjoy that they are God, and realize that it was God remembering this now as them.
But to make sure they would know that the Love of Who they really are is indeed pure altruistic Love -without the least selfishness in It- God was willing to sacrifice all His joy and turn it into hell for Himself compared to His original Heavenly state. This was done by taking on the human experience. The experience of human "life" is a cross and constant dying in comparison to the real Self awareness of God. And it is He Who is experiencing being us now, in these human disguises.
She told me that I should see someone who was an incarnation of God on earth. Someone she could introduce me to. This incarnation was bringing divine messages to the world she said. This I was told yesterday.
Today I received what I thought was a newsletter, inviting one to go to some meeting in Oxford. Not seeing any reason for me to go there -it would be a few hour trip to get there- I discarded the email. Then about an hour later I received a phone call from that friendly lady, telling me that next week she could not give me the 4th private lesson, so it would have to be the week after that. And she told me about that meeting in Oxford Saturday next week, that she had send me that invitation because of me being spiritually experienced, and that there the person -I forgot the exotic sounding name- would bring a message. I told her going to Oxford was a bit difficult for me, so she suggested I think about it. She made it sound like it was a privilege to be invited to that event ...
Since I had already discarded the invitation e-mail with a photograph of a beautiful white building on it, I googled to find any info on it, hoping to see a channeling video or at least a picture of the person or -better- read a channeled text. Instead I found this website ... God does have humor: a foretaste of Heaven on earth.
To be frank, that lovely lady did not tell me anything I did not know, and many things I know are very different thank God. As God we have given our Life for these humans we seem to be, that one day also they would come to enjoy the actual knowledge that in truth they are the One Who was so Loving and Courageous to be willing to undergo this existence you are experiencing now, out of pure Altruistic Love for someone else, that someone else being you who are reading this now, God in your human disguise.
I am still a bit curious as to what exactly that channel is saying. I do know a hawk from a handsaw, and I don't want to hurt the feelings of that lady. But I would tell her what I think of any messages I know are not in accordance with the marvellous Truth about Who we really are if I went to Oxford.
If any of you would know where I can read at least one of those messages -preferably not a very old one- I would be much obliged.
Keeping my promise I will go see that dear lady in white one more time to hear what she has to say. But having browsed already a bit through some post on this forum, I am glad to know enough now not to get involved in what looks very much like a sect.
Thank you for having been willing to experience being BK's guinea pigs so others like me are saved from having to go through that to find out what is behind the front. One thing I agree with BK on though: you are angels indeed. Lovingly protecting ones to some like myself. And consoling to others.
Much Love Indeed.