sukshmbindu wrote:What would you practise: soul in forehead/soul in Soul World/what?
Soul in Soul World connected to ShivBaba. When guiding meditation, imaging his energy being channelled through my third eye at the other individual. Even that was probably a later introduction.
They had just started the dreamy, imaginative contemplations you are talking about, it was Sister Denise in California who did. Before that, the practise was based on Jayanti's guided meditation tape, i.e. leaving the body, travelling up into space, entering the Soul World, connecting to Shiva.
A Scottish Brother who has since left, I think it was, also had the idea for a monthly "World Meditation Day", (similar to the Buddhists' "expanding metta" practise). That was probably the start of the "sending vibrations to the world" fantasies.
When we taught meditation, "contemplations" were a sort of basic step towards meditation, i.e. thoughtless absorbtion. Now it seems like anyone old fantasy will do.
thank you for this information ... so it is a misinterpretation by BKs then.
No, it came from their god and was in the Murlis.
What you just wrote, repeated, is just a typical BK excuse I've heard 100 times before, i.e. when their god spirit is proven to be wrong or fallible, they blame it on some BK follower. But it is explicitly not true. It is one of their many "corporate lies" intent on making their failed god and Seniors look better than they actually are and to support the illusion of an infallible Seniors and an "Ocean of Truth" god.
Can an Ocean of Truth have any wrong or falsehood in it? Would a god, or even a good soul, lie or support and sustain any wrong or falsehood?
In addition, we were told that the word of the Seniors was equal to god's and "Shrimat", so if they said it, it was equal to god saying it. And they all said it. They (allegedly) had a direct connection with BapDada and would regularly hold seances where Jayanti, Mohini, Gulzar or some other spirit medium would go into trance and ask for guidance or clarification directly from BapDada.
He never corrected them.
I still feel it would be seamless through love and not through violence by civil wars, nuclear wars and natural calamities.
Well then, all that is, is your own projection and manmat. It is not BKism.
You may well be right and your vision is actually better than the BKs, however, it is not BKism and should never be presented as BKism, or to support BKism.
The BKs might encourage and allow contact souls such as yourself to believe what they want in order to keep them close, serviceable and donating money ... but BKism is 100% Nuclear War and death of 7 billion human beings.
If you do not accept 100% Nuclear War and death of 7 billion human beings, then you are not a BK and should leave BKism and its god spirit.
This is where I think you are at a slight disadvantage being on the outside of BKism. If you were on the inside of BKism you'd know their god spirit and Seniors regularly teases the 10,000s of BKs at Madhuban with "pressing the button" and "inspiring the scientists" and "Destruction".
In truth, I think you know this too ... and it underlines a sort of disonnance between your own position/beliefs and BKism.
What did they practise to be a channel
They did not. It was at a "rescue circle" which is a healing practise (allegedly) for disincarnate spirits, i.e. souls who had died but did not know it or had not moved on to their next lives, existence or "the light" (other spirit worlds). It was an automatic experience for them like being possessed.
Why not, what's wrong in being a healer ... Jesus
It does not pay the rent, it does not put food on the table, it does not offer a retirement pension ... and look at the trouble it got Jesus into!
Here is a subtle framework to consider about "spiritualism" ... if you are ready, the "gifts" will come to you and be given to you. If you go chasing them, which is ultimately ego driven, you end up in unreliable relationships with those that will give them to you whether individual teachers or the unreliable "spirits" themselves.
As with BKism, there's a lot of darkness and shadow (manipulation, parasitism, "evil") within the broad field of "spiritualism" ... moreso than in normal life. And at least in normal life you can see it with your own eyes.
You may feel trapped, you may be looking for a fantasy or escape from your dull or unhappy normal life ... do not choose spiritualism as that. Find something practical and down to earth. Choose something that will take you to where you want to get to, e.g. a new skill, a new language, financial independence a good and practical business etc.
One of the best books to start with on this subject, in fact, I would call it "obligatory study" is 'The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts: A Riveting Investigation Into Channeling and Spirit Guides' by Joe Fisher. His is a view that would be shared with most real "masters".
Say, like many young Indian women, you think you "want to be like Sister Shivani", or Sister Jayanti for Western women (they are sort of fantasy figures the BKWSU used for marketing). Or like many you want to give up your unhappy life to live in Mount Abu and surrender to Baba. Or be a healer or a psychic medium and channeller. Fine. OK. Now answer all the practical, down to earth questions about what it would take and how likely you are to succeed ... you'll quickly discovered that the chances are impossible. Therefore it's better to be practical first.
Master "normal life" first, as indeed Lekhraj Kirpalani did in his time, then think about what comes next.
I am trying to save you from the mistakes I made (
yes, I was at the very beginning inspired by stories of Jesus as a healer and I discovered they were all fantasies too, and the reality of chasing them sucked).
Let's talk about your real life first.