Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic infection

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Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic infection

Post12 Apr 2019

From another topic, an ex-cultist and ex-deprogrammer discusses "viral mimetic infection" and how we can get into such a state that "saving the world through genocide" not just makes but is the right thing to do.

The individual is an ex-Moonie but their experience runs parallel to ours. The BKs believe that the only way to "Save the World" ... at least for themselves alone ... is through the genocide of the rest of humanity. Only accepting that as right ... the death of 7 billion human beings ... makes BKism appear rational.

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Re: Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic inf

Post12 Apr 2019

I am not sure of the provenance of this link but I was amused by some of its definitions, Memetic Lexicon.

membot

A person whose entire life has become subordinated to the propagation of a meme, robotically and at any opportunity. (Such as many Jehovah's Witnesses, Krishnas, and Scientologists.) Due to internal competition, the most vocal and extreme membots tend to rise to top of their sociotype hierarchy.

A self-destructive membot is a memeoid.
memeoid, or memoid

A person "whose behavior is so strongly influenced by a [meme] that their own survival becomes inconsequential in their own minds." (Such as: Kamikazes, Shiite terrorists, Jim Jones followers, any military personnel). hosts and membots are not necessarily memeoids.

The Brahma Kumaris most certainly have and employ "memetic engineers", Jagdish Chander being the first and foremost. And they utilise non-Indian memetic engineers to take and modify their working Indian memes and make they palatable and successful within other cultures.
memetic engineer

One who consciously devises memes, through meme-splicing and memetic synthesis, with the intent of altering the behavior of others. Writers of manifestos and of commercials are typical memetic engineers.

A case against, can be started from here: Why I no longer believe religion is a virus of the mind.
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Re: Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic infect

Post13 Apr 2019

Although there are any number of small cults and groups that would save the world though genocide, from Asahara’s Aum Shinrikyo - who were caught and stopped after testing the efficacy of Sarin gas in the Tokyo subway killing 13 and affecting 1000 others (Asahara was executed in Japan in 2018) - to ISIS (whom we all know about), to the ”Christian” Lord’s Army in Uganda, the real danger is the US government.

Especially since the George W Bush presidency, with a short hiatus during Obama’s 8 years, the American executive branch and large parts of Congress are filled with neo-evangelist christians who are preparing for "the Rapture" and the Second Coming of Christ. The grown ups have all either quit or been sacked. These (other) self-proclaimed instruments of God form the electoral support and power base base of Donald Trump. He is dependent on them and their wealth and influence, despite not being one of them in beliefs, and is quite opposite to them morally even more than he depends on the oft-quoted disempowered white middle aged working class of the rust belt who have limited money and no influence except their vote.

These include Vishnu Party Pence and Mike Pompeo, former head of the CIA and now Secretary of State who attend regular meetings with fellow god-botherers in the Administration to formulate how to proceed doing God's work. Pompeo as the top "diplomat", openly and repeatedly and undiplomatically said this is what motivates him, how he keeps the Bible open on his desk and consults it regularly with every decision. These people, like the Moonies, the ISIS fighters, the Aum Shinrikyo terrorsits, believe they are doing ”God’s work” by manipulating Middle East foreign policy in particular to fulfil their interpretation of the Book Of Revelation.

They are the ones who pushed Trump to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and to move the US Embassy there. They are the ones who work hand in hand with ultra-Zionists who care nothing for the plight of the displaced Palestinians or even the secular democratic fabric of the secular state of Israel. (Ironically, there is a branch of Orthodox Jews who believe the modern State of Israel should not even exist!).

Here we have an administration driven by greed for oil and military-industrial profiteering who rationalise their decisions according to an ingrained messianic-saviour complex and are manipulating a politically embattled narcissistic sociopath whom they see as placed in the White House by God to fulfil the prophecy of Armageddon.

The mimetic ”God" of the BKs will sit back and take all the credit in the minds of BK believers while the ”god” of the US right wing Christian fundamentalists does all the work.

Cheeky question: if Armageddon actually does take place, whose "One True God” shoudl get the credit, the one that did the actual work or the others that did not do much except sit back and wait for it to happen, predicting it year in and out until it happens (because there's enough crazies hearing the voices of god botherers inside and outside their heads ’inspiring’ them? ) ?

... When fundamentalist Christians read the Bible in the 20th century, something has been fundamentally changed, in the last 50 years in particular. And that is, they're able to open texts for the first time in 2,000 years--texts like Revelation, texts like the Book of Daniel, all the prophets--and they can begin to see the possibilities of a literal fulfillment, not a symbolic fulfillment as in the past. That is, Jerusalem would mean Jerusalem. The Jewish people would mean literally the Zionists and the Jewish state that now exists ...

In June 1967, at the conclusion of the Six Day War, the Israelis found themselves, for the first time in 2,000 years, in control of the Old City of Jerusalem. Jews could go to the wall and pray. There was this euphoric sense of victory and even survival after this war, from just a Jewish point of view, from an Israeli point of view. Christians, however, who were fundamentalist interpreters of the Bible, had a completely different take on this ...
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Re: Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic inf

Post20 Apr 2019

Many members of the ruling class and the 1% in the USA are members of the Skull and Bones Fraternity, which has it home based in a windowless building on the campus Yale University. The late Daddy Bush, George W. Bush, and John Kerry have been documented to be members. Clarence Thomas is most likely a member. A person does not necessarily have to be an alumnus of Yale to be a member, active recruiting occurs at the Ivy schools in the USA, sometimes through organizations including the Central Intelligence Agency, which overtly recruits on the Ivy campuses of the USA.

The United Nations was created by members of death cults. They very much fear the second coming of Jesus Christ.
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Re: Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic infect

Post21 Apr 2019

GuptaRati 6666 wrote:The United Nations was created by members of death cults. They very much fear the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Which means they are Christians or a variation of Christianity in the same way Satanists are inverse Christians. You may fear the second coming of Christ only if you think Christ exists in those Christian terms, i.e. Jesus may have existed historically, an essene, a rabbi, whatever, but the whole notion of ”the Christ” and the Christian cosmology is another thing all together.
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Re: Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic inf

Post22 Apr 2019

Pink,
There is no doubt that members of the ruling class in developed and developing countries and the 1% are Satanists. Some for example, in the US Department of Defense, will attend church on a Sunday, return to work on a Monday; release missiles to kill hundreds of civilians in distant countries; and attend lodge meetings on a Wednesday or Friday night.

The BKs do not have much documented information on Jesus and I can understand their reasons. The reasons I will discuss in a separate post.
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Re: Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic inf

Post22 Apr 2019

GuptaRati 6666 wrote:Many members of the ruling class and the 1% in the USA are members of the Skull and Bones Fraternity ... the United Nations was created by members of death cults [who] fear the second coming of Jesus Christ.

I know the remarkable influence of something as bizarre as the Skull and Bones club has truth to it, Antony C. Sutton researched and wrote an interesting insight, 'America's Secret Establishment' about it. The correlation between its membership, past and present, and power is hard to argue against.

However, the story of the United Nations creation is not one I am aware of. I see there is a recent book out about it, 'No Enchanted Palace: The End of Empire and the Ideological Origins of the United Nations' by Mark Mazower. I suppose there is always an "inside" story of it, like how in the case of the creation of Israel, there were all sorts of covert and even dark influences involved in its creation.
The author argues that the United Nations ... did not emerge from a pristine liberal vision of universal rights. Instead, it was a manifestation of Victorian-era "imperial internationalism," an organizational and ideological extension of the British Empire [by] a wider group of elites who were attempting to "shore up a liberal world order that would be compatible with empire and Anglo-American hegemony" ... ensure "white leadership of the world," act as an instrument for a "global civilizing mission," and undergird British imperial leadership.

Reviewed, here, and elsewhere.

In a way, from a BK point of view, that's an interesting proposal ... because of Lekhraj Kirpalani loyalty and devotion to the British powers in India during his life. He saw and called Gandhi and Congress and "traitors" and was infatuated with British royalty/elite he had business dealings with. That is 'DNA' that was passed down within the movement.

But I would argue that the BKs' knowledge and interest in the United Nations merely goes as far as,
    a) It's famous, and
    b) It's usefulness to give credibility and access to VIPs.
Even if it was run by white imperialistic "Satanists" it would not bother them ... they would *STILL* turn up if it matched those two requirements. It is all just about using it for,
    i) status by association, and
    ii) convincing donor-adherents they are special ... in short, "being seen to be doing something".
In the real world, the UN is not necessarily seen as something so cool, and it is widely criticised ...
What Has the UN Achieved”.
In its 70 years, the United Nations may have been hailed as the great hope for the future of mankind – but it has also been dismissed as a shameful den of dictatorships. It has infuriated with its numbing bureaucracy, its institutional cover-ups of corruption and the undemocratic politics of its security council. It goes to war in the name of peace but has been a bystander through genocide. It has spent more than half a trillion dollars in 70 years.

- David Shearer, who served the organisation in senior posts in Rwanda, Belgrade, Afghanistan, Iraq and Jerusalem.
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Re: Save the World through Genocide: BKs & viral mimetic inf

Post22 Apr 2019

The Rockefeller family was one of the founding members of the United Nations. Guyana was used by the BKs as a ladder to the UN. It's like the game of Snakes and Ladders.
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Post23 Apr 2019

The non-political parts of the UN do some excellent work (albeit with the occasional corrupt people moving through).

The WHO has been instrumental in eradicating or minimising serious diseases, UNICEF does wonders for refugees, UNESCO with heritage and environmen etc. The biggest problem is the Security Council and after that the poor management leading to waste or corruption that happens due to political concessions and horse trading ( Saudi Arabia chairing the Human Rights Committee?!).

One of the initiators and champions of the UN after WW2 was Doc Evatt, an Australian highly regarded here, from our Labor Party from a time when even their political opponents concede they did good things (even though they undid many of them when they got into power!).

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