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Post13 Jan 2008

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"कोई भी देहधारी को याद करने से मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति मिल नहीं सकती। मैसेन्जर लोग भी किसको वर्सा देते नहीं हैं। मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति का वर्सा बाप ही आकर देते हैं। परन्तु किनको डायरेक्ट, किनको इनडायरेक्ट। तुम बच्चों के सम्मुख ही बाप होता है। दिन-प्रतिदिन तुम देखेंगे - बाबा मधुबन से बाहर कहाँ जायेंगे नहीं। इस पुरानी दुनिया में रखा ही क्या है। शिवबाबा कहते हैं हमको स्वर्ग में जाने अथवा स्वर्ग को देखने की भी खुशी नहीं है तो बाकी इस दुनिया में कहाँ जायेंगे। मेरा पार्ट ही ऐसा है, पतित दुनिया में आता हूँ। ७ वंडर्स ऑफ वर्ल्ड कहते हैं, परन्तु उनमें कोई स्वर्ग बताते नहीं। स्वर्ग तो पीछे आता है। मुझे पतित दुनिया, पतित शरीर में पराये राज्य में आना पड़ता है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १२.११.०७, पृ.२)

"Koi bhi dehdhaari ko Yaad karney say mukti-jeevanmukti mil nahee saktee. Messenger log bhi kisko varsa detey nahee hain. Mukti-jeevanmukti ka varsa Baap hee aakar detey hain. Parantu kinko direct, kinko indirect. Tum bachchon kay sammukh hee Baap hota hai. Din-pratidin tum dekhengey – Baba Madhuban say baahar kahaan jaayengey nahee. Is puraani duniya may rakha hee kya hai. ShivBaba kahtey hain hamko swarg may jaaney athava swarg ko dekhney kee bhi khushi nahee hai toh baaki is duniya may kahaan jaayengey. Mera part hee aisa hai, patit duniya may aataa hoon. 7 wonders of the world kahtey hain parantu unmay koi swarg bataatey nahee. Swarg toh peechey aata hai. Mujhey patit duniya, patit shareeer may paraaye raajya may aana padta hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 12.11.07, pg 2)

“One cannot get mukti (salvation) jeevanmukti (true salvation while being alive) by remembering any bodily being. Even the Messengers do not give inheritance to anyone. The Father himself comes and gives the inheritance of mukti-jeevanmukti. But directly to some and indirectly to some. Day by day you will see that –Baba will not go anywhere out of Madhuban. What is there in this old world? ShivBaba says – I am not happy to either go to heaven or even to see heaven, so, where will I go in this world? My part itself is like this. I come in the sinful world. People say – 7 wonders of the world, but nobody mentions heaven among them. Heaven comes later. I have to come in the sinful world, sinful body in an alien kingdom." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 12.11.07, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post14 Jan 2008

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"कई नये-नये बच्चे कहते हैं बाबा हम नौकरी आदि छोड़ इस सर्विस में लग जायें? बाबा कहते हैं - आगे चल माया नाक से ऐसे पकड़ेगी जो बात मत पूछो। अनुभव कहता है - ऐसे बहुतों ने छोड़ा फिर चले गये। ईश्वरीय जन्म तो लिया फिर माया ने घसीट लिया। बड़े अच्छे-अच्छे बच्चों को माया एक घूंसा लगाए बेहोश कर देती है, जिनका बुद्धियोग बाहर भटकता रहता है, पुराने सम्बन्धियों आदि में। इसलिए बाबा कहते हैं देहधारियों से बुद्धियोग जास्ती मत रखो। इस बाबा से भी भल तुम्हारा कितना भी प्यार है तो भी इनसे बुद्धियोग मत लगाओ। बाप को याद नहीं करेंगे तो विकर्म विनाश नहीं होंगे।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १२.११.०७, पृ.३)

"Kayi naye-naye bachchey kahtey hain Baba ham naukari aadi chod is service may lag jaayein? Baba kahtey hain – aagey chal Maya naak say aisey pakdegi jo baat mat poocho. Anubhav kahtaa hai – aisey bahuton nay choda fir chaley gaye. Ishwariya janma toh liya fir Maya nay ghaseet liya. Badey achchey-achchey bachchon ko Maya ek ghoosa lagaay behosh kar deti hai, jinka buddhiyog baahar bhataktaa rahtaa hai, puraaney sambandhiyon aadi may. Isliye Baba kahtey hain dehdhaariyon say buddhiyog jaasti mat rakho. Is Baba say bhi bhal tumhara kitnaa bhi pyaar hai toh bhi insay buddhiyog mat lagaao. Baap ko Yaad nahee karengey toh vikarma vinaash nahee hongey." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 12.11.07, pg 3)

“Some new children say – Baba, should we leave our job etc. and start doing this service? Baba says – In future, Maya will catch hold of your nose in such a way that not to ask of it. Experience says that – many left (their jobs, etc.) like this and then departed (from the Yagya). They did take Godly birth, then Maya dragged them. Maya makes very nice children, whose intellect keeps wandering outside, in old relatives, etc., unconscious with a single punch. That is why Baba says – Do not connect your intellect with bodily beings much. Although you may have a lot of love for this Baba, even then do not connect your intellect with this one. If you do not remember the Father, then the sins would not get burnt." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 12.11.07, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post15 Jan 2008

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"सन्यासी खुद कहते हैं सुख काग विष्टा समान है। लेकिन स्वर्ग का नाम भूलते नहीं हैं। कहते हैं फलाना स्वर्ग पधारा फिर पित्रों को बुलाते हैं। आत्मा कोई में प्रवेश कर बोलती है। परन्तु आत्मा कैसे आती है कोई नहीं जानते। शरीर दूसरे का है, खायेगी भी उनकी आत्मा। उनके पेट में पड़ेगा। हाँ बाकी वासना वह लेती है। शिवबाबा तो है ही अभोक्ता। कुछ खाते नहीं। मम्मा की आत्मा आती है तो खाती है। पित्र भी आते हैं तो खाते हैं, यह बातें समझने की हैं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १२.११.०७, पृ.३)

"Sanyasi khud kahtey hain sukhh kaag vishta samaan hai. Lekin swarg ka naam bhooltey nahee hain. Kahtey hain falaanaa swarg padhara fir pitron ko bulaatey hain. Aatma koi may pravesh kar boltee hai. Parantu aatmaa kaisey aati hai koi nahee jaantey. Shareer doosrey ka hai, khaayegi bhi unki aatmaa. Unkay pait may padega. Haan baaki vaasnaa vah leti hai. ShivBaba toh hai hee abhokta. Kuchh khaatey nahee. Mama kee aatma aati hai toh khaati hai. Pitra bhi aatey hain toh khaatey hain, yah baatein samajhney kee hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 12.11.07, pg 3)

“Sanyasis themselves say that pleasures are like the excreta of crows (which feed upon excreta of other animals). But they do not forget (to utter) the name of heaven. They say that such and such person has departed for the heavenly abode. Then they recall the (souls of) ancestors. The soul enters into someone and speaks. But nobody knows how the soul comes. The body belongs to others; it is the soul of that person who will eat. The food will reach the stomach of that person. But it is that soul (which has entered in the body) that cherishes (the food). ShivBaba is abhokta (one who does not experience any pleasure through the bodily organs). He does not eat anything. When Mama’s soul comes, it eats. When the ancestors also come, they eat. These matters are to be understood." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 12.11.07, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post16 Jan 2008

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"बाबा ने समझाया है - हमेशा त्रिमूर्ति शिव जयन्ती कहना है। इस वारी लिखेंगे (२००८ में) ७२वीं त्रिमूर्ति शिवजयन्ती मना रहे हैं। ब्रह्मा बिगर शिव कैसे जन्म लेंगे।....मनुष्य बिल्कुल विकारी पतित बन पड़े हैं। बूढ़े हो जाते हैं तो भी विकार नहीं छोड़ते। नहीं तो कायदा है ६० वर्ष के बाद वानप्रस्थ लेना चाहिए। पहले ऐसे करते थे। ६० वर्ष के अन्दर अपना बोझा उतारकर बच्चों को दे देते थे। अब ६० वर्ष की आयु में भी बच्चे पैदा करते रहते हैं। बाप कहते हैं इनकी ६० वर्ष की आयु में बहुत जन्मों के अन्त के अन्त में, जब इनकी वानप्रस्थ अवस्था हुई तब मैंने प्रवेश किया, तब इसने भी सब कुछ छोड़ा। बाप के आने से सारी दुनिया के लिए वानप्रस्थ अवस्था हो जाती है क्योंकि सबको जाना है वापिस। इसलिए बाप कहते हैं मामेकम याद करो। छोटा वा बड़ा कोई भी रहेगा नहीं।...संगमयुग में बाप आकर पतितों को पावन बनाते हैं। इसलिए इस युग की आयु - जब से बाप आया है तब से गिनेंगे। तुम कहेंगे हम ७२वीं त्रिमूर्ति शिव जयन्ती मनाते हैं अथवा शिवबाबा ७२ वर्ष से आया हुआ है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १४.११.०७, पृ.२ एवं ३)


"Baba nay samjhaya hai – hamesha Trimurti Shiv Jayanti kahnaa hai. Is vaari likhengey (2008 may) 72vi Trimurti Shivjayanti manaa rahey hain. Brahma bigar Shiv kaisey janma lengey.....Manushya bilkul vikaari patit ban padey hain. Boodhey ho jaatey hain toh bhi vikaar nahee chodtey. Nahee toh kaaydaa hai 60 varsh kay baad vaanprasth lena chaahiye. Pehley aisey kartey thay. 60 varsh ke andar apnaa bojha utaarkar bachchon ko dey detey thay. Ab 60 varsh kee aayu may bhi bachchey paida kartey rahtey hain. Baap kahtey hain inki 60 varsh kee aayu may bahut janmon kay ant kay ant may, jab inki vaanprastha avastha hui tab mainey pravesh kiya, tab isnay bhi sab kuch choda. Baap kay aaney say saari duniya kay liye vaanprasth avastha ho jaati hai kyonki sabko jaanaa hai vaapis. Isliye Baap kahtey hain maamekam Yaad karo. Chota va badaa koi bhi rahega nahee......Sangamyug may Baap aakar patiton ko paavan banaatey hain. Isliye is yug kee aayu – jab say Baap aaya hai tab say ginengey. Tum kahengey ham 72vi Trimurti Shivjayanti manaatey hain athava ShivBaba 72 varsh say aaya hua hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 14.11.07, pg 2&3)

“Baba has explained – one should always say ‘Trimurti Shiv Jayanti’. This time (in 2008) it will be written that we are celebrating 72nd Trimurti Shivjayanti. How can Shiv take birth without Brahma.....Human beings have become completely vicious and sinful. Even when they become old they do not leave vices (i.e. lust). Otherwise, it is a rule that one should take retirement (vaanprasth) after the age of 60 years. Earlier people used to do like this. They used to relieve themselves of burdens (i.e. discharge their responsibilities) within 60 years and entrust it to the children. Now people keep giving birth to children even at the age of 60 years. The Father says – at the age of 60 years of this one, at the end of the last one of many births, when he reaches the stage of vaanprasth (retirement), I have entered in him. Only then did he too leave everything. With the arrival of the Father, the entire world reaches the vaanprasth stage because everyone has to return (home). That is why the Father says – Remember me alone. Nobody will survive, whether young or old.....The Father comes in the Confluence Age and transforms the sinful ones into pure ones. That is why the duration of this Age/Era will be counted from that time. You will say that we are celebrating the 72nd Trimurti Shiv Jayanti or that ShivBaba has come (here) since 72 years." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 14.11.07, pg 2&3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post17 Jan 2008

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"बाप समझाते हैं - सब आसुरी मत वाले हैं। यहाँ आते हैं असुरों से देवता बनने। यह इन्द्रप्रस्थ है। कई असुर भी छिपकर आए बैठते हैं। सब सेन्टर्स पर ऐसे छिपे असुर (विकारी) बहुत आते हैं, फिर घर में जाकर विष पीते हैं। दो काम तो चल न सकें। वह पत्थरबुद्धि बन पड़ते हैं। बाप को पहचानते ही नहीं। निश्चय बिल्कुल ही नहीं कि हमको बेहद का बाप पढ़ाते हैं। ऐसे ही आकर बैठ जाते हैं। तो न योग लगेगा, न पढ़ाई ही पढ़ सकते। भोगी के भोगी ही होंगे। बहुत समझते हैं कि कोई शक्ति है बस। निराकार शिवबाबा कैसे आ सकता।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १५.११.०७, पृ.१)

"Baap samjhaatey hain – sab aasuri mat vaaley hain. Yahaan aatey hain asuron say devtaa ban-ney. Yah Indraprastha hai. Kayi asur bhi chipkar aaye baithtey hain. Sab centers par aisey chipey asur (vikaari) bahut aatey hain, fir ghar may jaakar vish peetey hain. Do kaam toh chal na sakein. Vah pattharbuddhi ban padtey hain. Baap ko pehchaantey hee nahee. Nishchay bilkul hee nahee ki hamko behad ka Baap padhaatey hain. Aisey hee aakar baith jaatey hain. Toh na Yoga lagega, na padhaai hee padh saktey. Bhogi kay bhogi hee hongey. Bahut samajhtey hain ki koi shakti hai bas. Niraakaar ShivBaba kaisey aa saktaa!" (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 15.11.07, pg 1)

“The Father explains – everyone follows the demoniac opinion. They come here to get transformed from demons to deities. This is Indraprasth. Many demons also come and sit stealthily. At all the centers a lot of such incognito demons (vicious persons) come. Then they go home and drink the poison (of lust). Both tasks cannot be performed (simultaneously). They become persons with a stone-like intellect. They do not recognize the Father at all. They do not have faith at all that the unlimited Father teaches us. They simply come and sit. So, they will neither be able to do Yoga, nor will they be able to study The Knowledge. They will remain just a pleasure-seeker (bhogi). Many think that there is some power; that is all. How can the incorporeal ShivBaba come?" (Revised Sakar Murli dated 15.11.07, pg 1 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post18 Jan 2008

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"सिर्फ कहना नहीं है कि ऐसा करना चाहिए। यह किसको कहते हो? बाबा करेगा वा बच्चे करेंगे? बोलो कौन? बाप तो डायरेक्शन देते हैं। ऐसे अच्छे चित्र, कैलेन्डर छपाओ, त्रिमूर्ति शिव के कैलेन्डर्स निकलने चाहिए। त्रिमूर्ति शिव जयन्ती कहना राइट है। सिर्फ शिव जयन्ति कहना रांग है। एक बच्चे की दिल है त्रिमूर्ति शिव जयन्ती का कैलेन्डर बनावें सो भी रंगीन। त्रिमूर्ति से समझानी अच्छी मिलती है। बाबा लॉकेट भी इसलिए बनवाते हैं कि उनसे अच्छा समझा सकते हैं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १५.११.०७, पृ.२)

"Sirf kahnaa nahee hai ki aisa karnaa chaahiye. Yah kisko kahtey ho? Baba karega va bachchey karengey? Bolo kaun? Baap toh direction detey hain. Aisey achchey chitra, calendar chapao, Trimurti Shiv kay calendars nikalney chaahiye. Trimurti Shiv Jayanti ka calendar banaavein so bhi rangeen. Trimurti say samjhaani achchi miltee hai. Baba locket bhi isliye banvaatey hain ki unsay achcha samjha saktey hain." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 15.11.07, pg 2)

“One should not just say that one should do like this. Whom do you tell this? Will Baba do or will children do? Tell, who (will do)? The Father gives directions. Get such nice pictures, calendars printed. Calendars of Trimurti Shiv should be brought out. It is right to say Trimurti Shiv. It is wrong to say just Shiv Jayanti. One child wants to prepare calendars of Trimurti Shiv Jayanti, that too colourful ones. One can get good explanation from (the picture of) Trimurti. Baba gets the locket also prepared because one can explain nicely through it." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 15.11.07, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post19 Jan 2008

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"यहाँ बाबा कहते हैं देह सहित जो कुछ है सब कुछ भूल मामेकम याद करो। अपनी देह में भी न फंसो। किसकी देह में फंसने से गिर पड़ते हैं। जैसे मम्मा की देह से प्यार था तो मम्मा के जाने के बाद कितने मर गये क्योंकि नाम रूप में फंसे हुए थे। बाप कितना कहते हैं कि देह-अभिमानी मत बनो, मामेकम याद करो। तुम इस ब्रह्मा के शरीर को भी याद नहीं करो। शरीर को याद करने से पूरा ग्यान उठा नहीं सकते। देही-अभिमानी बनने में बहुत मेहनत है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १५.११.०७, पृ.३ एवं ४)

"Yahaan Baba kahtey hain deh sahit jo kuch hai sab kuch bhool maamekam Yaad karo. Apnee deh may bhi na fanso. Kiskee deh may fansney say gir padtey hain. Jaisey Mamm kee deh say pyaar tha toh Mama kay jaaney ke baad kitney mar gaye kyonki naam roop may fansey huay thay. Baap kitnaa kahtey hain ki deh-abhimaani mat bano, maamekam Yaad karo. Tum is Brahma kay shareeer ko bhi Yaad nahee karo. Shareeer ko Yaad karney say poora gyaan nahee uthaa saktey. Dehi abhimaani ban-ney may bahut mehnat hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 15.11.07, pg 3&4)

“Here Baba says forget everything including the body and remember me alone. Do not get entangled even in your own body. One experiences downfall by getting entangled in someone’s body. For example, some had love for Mama’s body. So, after the demise of Mama so many died (from the path of knowledge) because they were entangled in name and form. The Father says so much that do not become body conscious; remember me alone. You do not even remember the body of this Brahma. One cannot grasp The Knowledge completely by remembering the body. There is a lot of hard work involved in becoming soul conscious." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 15.11.07, pg 3&4 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Post20 Jan 2008

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"त्वमेव माताश्च पिता कौन है? जहाँ दो देखते हैं तो उनके आगे महिमा गाते हैं। परन्तु लक्ष्मी-नारायण तो ना मात-पिता हैं, ना खिवैया हैं। ना ज्ञान सागर, पतित-पावन हैं। तुम बच्चे अच्छी तरह जानते हो - पतित-पावन निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा को ही कहा जाता है। त्वमेव माताश्च पिता...यह महिमा साकार की हो नहीं सकती। न लौकिक माता-पिता के लिये यह गाते हैं। उस लौकिक मां-बाप से तो अल्पकाल का काग विष्टा के समान सुख मिलता है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १६.११.०७, पृ.१)

"Twamev matashcha pita kaun hai? Jahaan doh dekhtey hain toh unkay aagey mahima gaatey hain. Parantu Lakshmi-Narayan toh na maat-pita hain, na khivayya hain. Na gyaan saagar, patit-paavan hain. Tum bachchey achchi tarah jaantey ho – patit-paavan niraakaar Parampita Parmatma ko hee kahaa jaataa hai. Twamev matashcha pita… yah mahima saakaar kee ho nahee saktee. Na lokik maat-pitaa kay liye yah gaatey hain. Us lokik Maa baap say toh alpakaal ka kaag vishta kay samaan sukhh miltaa hai.." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 16.11.07, pg 1)

“Who is twamev matashcha pita (i.e. you are the Father and the mother)? Wherever someone observes two (i.e. a deity couple), they sing their glory in front of them. But Lakshmi & Narayan are neither mother and Father, nor khivayya (boatman who takes someone across a river). They are neither oceans of knowledge, nor purifier of the sinful ones. You children know vey well – It is the incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul alone who is called purifier of the sinful ones. Twamev matashcha pita – this glory cannot be of the corporeal one. Neither is it sung for the lokik (worldly) mother and Father. From that lokik mother and Father one gets temporary pleasures which are like the excreta of crow (which feeds upon the excreta of other animals)." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 16.11.07, pg 1 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"कहाँ भी शादी पर वा किसके निमंत्रण पर जाना होता है तो वहाँ तुम बहुत सर्विस कर सकते हो। परन्तु बाबा को याद ही नहीं करते हैं, तो मदद ही क्या मिलेगी? कई हैं जिनमें ग्यान-योग कुछ भी नहीं है फिर भी सेन्टर सम्भालते हैं तो बाबा आकर मदद करते हैं। बाकी जो अपना कल्याण नहीं करते तो दूसरों का क्या करेंगे? जैसे गुरू लोग खुद ही मुक्ति नहीं पा सकते तो दूसरों को कैसे दे सकते।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १६.११.०७, पृ.१ एवं २)

"Kahaan bhi shaadi par va kiskay nimantran par jana hota hai toh vahaan tum bahut service kar saktey ho. Parantu Baba ko Yaad hee nahee kartey hain, toh madad hee kya milegi? Kayi hain jinmay gyaan-yog kuchh bhi nahee hai fir bhi center sambhaaltey hain toh Baba aakar madad kartey hain. Baaki jo apna kalyaan nahee kartey toh doosron ka kya karengey? Jaisey guru log khud hee mukti nahee paa saktey toh doosron ko kaisey dey saktey." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 16.11.07, pg 1&2)

“If you have to go anywhere to attend marriages or on the invitation of someone, then you can do a lot of service there. But when someone does not remember Baba at all then how can he/she receive any help? There are many who do not have knowledge or don’t do Yoga. Even then they run centers. So, Baba comes and helps. As regards those who do not cause benefit to themselves, then how can they cause benefit to others? Just as gurus cannot achieve mukti (liberation) themselves, how can they bestow (mukti) upon others?" (Revised Sakar Murli dated 16.11.07, pg 1&2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"यही धंधा तुमको करना है। सबको रास्ता बताने का, बस दो रोटी मिले वह भी बहुत है। मनुष्य का पेट जास्ती नहीं खाता। अगर सेन्सीबुल है तो थोड़े रूपये में भी काम चल सकता है। यहाँ तो कई ऐसे हैं जो थोड़ा ही ठीक न मिले तो भाग जायें। राजाई को भी ठोकर मार दें। बीच में बेगरी पार्ट चला, यह भी परीक्शा हुई थी। बहुत चले गये। यह सब शिवबाबा का क्या राज़ था वह भी गुड़ जाने गुड़ की गोथरी जाने। कितने डर कर भाग गये। नहीं तो दो रोटी खाने पर खर्चा बहुत कम लगता है। दो रोटी खाना, प्रभु के गुण गाना अर्थात् बाप और वर्से को याद करना। बाप को बहुत प्यार से याद करना है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १६.११.०७, पृ.२)

"Yahee dhandha tumko karnaa hai. Sabko raastaa bataaney ka, bas doh roti miley vah bhi bahut hai. Manushya ka pait jaasti nahee khaataa. Agar sensible hai toh thodey rupaye may bhi kaam chal saktaa hai. Yahaan toh kayi aisey hain jo thoda hee theek na miley toh bhaag jaayein. Raajai ko bi thokar maar dein. Beech may beggary part chalaa, yah bhi pareeksha hui thi. Bahut chaley gaye. Yah sab ShivBaba ka kya raaz tha vah bhi gur jaaney, gu kee gothri jaaney. Kitney darker bhaag gaye. Nahee toh doh roti khaaney par kharcha bahut kam lagtaa hai. Doh roti khana, Prabhu kay gun gaanaa arthaat Baap aur varsey ko Yaad karnaa. Baap ko bahut pyaar say Yaad karnaa hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 16.11.07, pg 2)

“You have to do only this job of showing the path to everyone. Even if one gets just two rotis, that is also enough. A human being’s stomach does not eat much. If someone is sensible, he can manage even with a few rupees. Here, there are many who would run away even if they do not get a little thing proper. They kick even the kingship. In between (i.e. for some time in the past) the beggary part was played. That was also a test. Many went away. What was the secret of ShivBaba in all this is known only to Him, i.e. only the jaggery and sack containing the jaggery know the difficulty (involved in stickiness). Many ran away out of fear. Otherwise, eating two roties involves very less expenditure. Eating two roties and singing the glory of God, i.e. remembering the Father and His inheritance. One should remember the Father with a lot of love." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 16.11.07, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"यहाँ कई बच्चे हैं जो सेन्टर पर आते रहते हैं। शिवबाबा कहते हैं मैं अन्तर्यामी हूँ, बहुत विकार में गिरते रहते हैं। कुछ बतलाते नहीं, उनको यह पता ही नहीं पड़ता कि कितनी सज़ा मिलेगी। बाबा कहते हैं उन्हों को बहुत सज़ा मिलेगी। महसूस करेंगे बरोबर हमने छिपाया था, इतना झूठ बोला था इसलिए यह सज़ा मिल रही है। बाबा कहते हैं समय आयेगा सबको अपनी चलन का साक्षात्कार कराऊंगा कि कितने पाप, झूठ किये हैं। बहुत विकार में जाते रहते हैं, सेन्टर पर भी आते रहते हैं। शास्त्रों में भी इन्द्रसभा की बात है। यह एक की बात नहीं। बहुत ऐसे होते हैं। फिर जाकर दुश्मन बनते हैं, अबलाओं पर विघ्न डालते रहते हैं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १६.११.०७, पृ.३)

"Yahaan kayi bachchey hain jo center par aatey rahtey hain, baahar say kahtey hain ham pavitra rahtey hain, parantu andar gand kartey rahtey hain. ShivBaba kahtey hain mai antaryami hoon, bahut vikaar may girtey rahtey hain. Kuch batlaatey nahee, unko yah pataa hee nahee padtaa ki kitnee sazaa milegi. Baba kahtey hain unhon ko bahut sazaa milegi. Mahsoos karengey barobar hamney chipaya tha, itnaa jhooth bola tha isliye yah sazaa mil rahee hai. Baba kahtey hain samay aayega sabko apnee chalan ka saakshaatkaar karaaunga ki kitney paap, jhooth kiye hain. Bahut vikaar may jaatey rahtey hain, center par bhi aatey rahtey hain. Shaastron may bhi Indra Sabha kee baat hai. Yah ek kee baat nahee. Bahut aisey hotey hain. Fir jaakar dushman bantey hain, ablaon par vighna daaltey rahtey hain." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 16.11.07, pg 3)

“There are many children here, who keep coming to the centers. They say for namesake that they lead a pure life, but they keep performing dirty acts inside. ShivBaba says I am antaryami (thought reader); many keep indulging in lust. They do not reveal anything. They do not know at all about the punishment that they will get. Baba says – they will get a lot of punishment. They will realize that - we had definitely hidden (truth from Baba), we had spoken so many lies; that is why we are getting this punishment. Baba says – a time will come when I will cause a vision to everyone about their acts that you have committed so many sins and spoken so many lies. Many keep indulging in lust and also keep coming to the center. The issue of the Court of Indra (Indrasabha) has been mentioned in the scriptures also. It is not a matter of one person. There are many such persons. Then they go and become enemies; they create obstacles for the weaker sex (ablaa)." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 16.11.07, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"एक दिन आयेगा जो तुम चित्र लेकर जाए सबको समझायेंगे कि शिवबाबा इस ब्रह्मा द्वारा विष्णुपुरी का राज्य दे रहे हैं। शंकर द्वारा पुरानी दुनिया का विनाश हो रहा है। बाकी देवताओं, असुरों की लड़ाई नहीं लगी। यह तो यवन और कौरवों की है। उनका बाम छूटेगा और इनकी लड़ाई शुरू होगी। विनाश के बाद फिर स्वर्ग की स्थापना, कितना सहज है। बोलो, सिर्फ बाप और वर्से को याद करना है। मनमना भव, बस। हमको कुछ भी नहीं चाहिए। हम पैसे के भूखे नहीं हैं। पैसे तो अपने पास रखो। युक्तियुक्त बोलना चाहिए। आगे चल बहुत निकलेंगे। थोड़ी तुम्हारी भी वृद्धि हो जाये। कई हैं जो बाहर से बड़े अच्छे हैं, बड़े मीठे हैं। परन्तु अन्दर किचड़ा भरा हुआ है। यहाँ अन्दर बाहर बड़ा साफ चाहिए।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १६.११.०७, पृ.३)

"Ek din aayega joh tum chitra lekar jaaye sabko samjhaayengey ki ShivBaba is Brahma dwara Vishnupuri ka raajya dey rahey hain. Shankar dwara puraani duniya ka vinaash ho raha hai. Baaki devataaon, asuron kee ladaai nahee lagee. Yah toh Yavan aur Kauravon kee hai. Unka baam chootega aur inki ladaai shuru hogi. Vinaash ke baad fir swarg kee sthaapnaa, kitnaa sahaj hai. Bolo, sirf Baap aur varsey ko Yaad karnaa hai. Manmanaabhav, bas. Hamko kuch bhi nahee chaahiye. Ham paisey ke bhookhey nahee hain. Paisey toh apney paas rakho. Yuktiyukt bolnaa chaahiye. Aagey chalkar bahut niklengey. Thodi tumhari vriddhi ho jaaye. Kayi hain jo baahar say badey achchey hain, badey meethey hain. Parantu andar kichraa bharaa hua hai. Yahaan andar baahar badaa saaf chaahiye." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 16.11.07, pg 3)

“A day will come when you will take the picture and explain to everyone that ShivBaba is giving the kingship of the abode of Vishnu (Vishnupuri) through this Brahma. Destruction of the old world is taking place through Shankar. As regards the war between the deities and the demons, it did not take place. It is a war of the Yavans and Kauravas. When they (i.e. the Yavans) explode the bomb, their (i.e. the Kauravas’) war will begin. Establishment of heaven after destruction. It is so easy. Tell (them), we have to remember just the Father and the inheritance. Manmanaabhav (merge your thoughts in mine). That is all. We do not want anything. We are not hungry for money. Keep your money with yourself. One should speak tactfully. Many will emerge in future. Let your numbers increase a little. There are many who are very nice externally; they are very sweet. But they are full of garbage inside. Here one is required to be very clean inside out." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 16.11.07, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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"अगर माला में पिरोना है तो मेहनत करो। बाबा सबके लिए बहुत अच्छी राय देते हैं। भल गूँगा हो, कोई को भी इशारे से बाबा की याद दिला सकते हैं। अन्धे, लूले कैसे भी हों - तन्दरूस्त से भी ज्यादा ऊंच पद पा सकते हैं। सेकण्ड में जीवनमुक्ति गाई हुई है। बाबा का बना और वर्सा मिल गया। ... जो दिव्य दृष्टि से दिखाया था, वह सब इन आंखों से देखेंगे। विष्णु का साक्षात्कार किया है। वहाँ भी प्रैक्टिकल जायेंगे। फिर साक्षात्कार होना बन्द हो जाता है। सतयुग त्रेता में न साक्षात्कार, न भक्ति। फिर भक्ति मार्ग से यह सब बातें शुरू होती हैं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक १९.११.०७, पृ.२ एवं ४)

"Agar mala may pirona hai toh mehnat karo. Baba sabke liye bahut achchi raay detey hain. Bhal goonga ho, koi ko bhi ishaarey say Baba kee Yaad dilaa saktey hain. Andhey, looley kaisey bhi hon – tandurust say bhi oonch pad paa saktey hain. Second may jeevanmukti gaai hui hai. Baba ka banaa aur varsa mil gaya ... Jo divya drishti say dikhaya tha, vah sab in aankhon say dekhengey. Vishnu ka saakshaatkaar kiya hai. Vahaan bhi practical jaayengey. Fir saakshaatkaar hona band ho jaataa hai. Satyug, Treta may na saakshaatkaar, na Bhakti. Fir Bhaktimarg say yah sab baatein shuru hoti hain." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 19.11.07, pg 2&4)

“If you wish to become a bead of the rosary, you must work hard. Baba gives a good advice for everyone. Although someone may be dumb, he can remind anyone of Baba through gestures. One may be blind, limp, or or any kind – they can achieve a post higher than the healthy ones. “Jeevanmukti (liberation from vices and sorrows while being alive) in a second” is famous. As soon as someone becomes Baba’s child, he becomes entritled to the inheritance ... You will see through these eyes whatever was shown through visions. You had visions of Vishnu. You will also go there practically. Then visions will stop. In the Golden Age and Silver Age there will be neither visions nor Bhakti. Then all these matters start from the path of worship." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 19.11.07, pg 2&4 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Re: Extracts from the Sakar Murlis published by BKs

Post29 Feb 2008

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"आदि सनातन हिन्दु धर्म कह देते हैं। परन्तु हिन्दु धर्म तो आदि सनातन था नहीं। तुम अखबार में भी डाल सकते हो, मैगजीन की तो बात नहीं। अखबारें तो लाखों की अंदाज़ में छपती हैं। हां, वह पैसे तो बहुत लेते हैं। समझाने से वह डाल सकते हैं। चक्र भी डाल सकते हैं। बाबा ने जो प्रश्न लिखा था कि गीता का भगवान कृष्ण वा शिव? वह भी अखबार में डाल सकते हैं। कभी खर्चे पर डालते हैं, कभी फ्री भी डाल देते। बाबा तो कहते हैं बच्चे बड़ी अच्छी-अच्छी अखबारों में डालो, परन्तु हमेशा पड़े तब मनुष्यों की आँख खुले। एक बार डाला, कोई ने पढ़ा, कोई ने नहीं भी पढ़ा। रोज़ डालने से मनुष्यों की आँख खुलेगी। फिर आकर समझेंगे। पुरुषार्थ करने में भी कितनी मेहनत लगती है। बहुत माया के तूफान आते हैं। मेहनत तो है ना। अखबार में डालना, प्रदर्शनी करना। प्रदर्शनी तो एक गांव में होगी। अखबार तो चारों ही ओर जाती है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक २०.११.०७, पृ.२)

"Aadi Sanaatan Hindu Dharma kah detey hain. Parantu Hindu Dharma toh Aadi Sanaatan tha nahee. Tum akhbaar may bhi daal saktey ho, magazine kee toh baat nahee. Akhbaarein toh laakhon kee andaaz may chapti hai. Haan vah paisey toh bahut letey hain. Samajhney say vah daal saktey hain. Chakra bhi daal saktey hain. Baba nay jo prashna likha tha ki Gita ka bhagwaan Krishna va Shiv? Vah bhi akhbaar may daal saktey hain. Kabhi kharchey par daaltey hai, kabhi free bhi daal detey hain. Baba toh kahtey hain bachchey badee achchi-achchi akhbaaron may daalo, parantu hamesha padey tab manushyon kee aankh khuley. Ek baar daala, koi nay padhaa, koi nay nahee bhi padhaa. Roz daalney say manushyon kee aankh khulegi. Fir aakar gyaan samjhengey. Purushaarth karney may bhi kitnee mehnat lagtee hai. Bahut Maya kay toofaan aatey hain. Mehnat toh hai na. Akhbaar may daalnaa, pradarshanii karnaa. Pradarshani toh ek gaon may hogi. Akhbaar toh chaaron hee ore jaati hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 20.11.07, pg 2)

“They say Aadi Sanaatan Hindu Dharma. But Hindu Dharma was not Aadi Sanaatan (first and ancient). You can publish in the newspapers also. It is not a matter of magazines. Newspapers are printed in lakhs. Yes, they charge a lot of amount. If you explain to them they may publish (free of cost). They may publish The Cycle also. The question that Baba had written that – Is God of Gita Krishna or Shiv - can also be published in the newspaper. Sometimes they publish on payment and sometimes they publish free of cost also. Baba says – Children, get it published in the big good newspapers. But if it is published always (i.e. regularly) then people’s eyes would open. If it is published once, someone reads it, someone does not read it. If it is published daily then people’s eyes would open. Then they will come and understand The Knowledge. Making efforts involves a lot of hard work. One faces a lot of storms of Maya. It involves hard work, does it not? (It involves hard work) to publish in the newspapers, to organize exhibitions. Exhibition can be organized in one village. But the newspaper is circulated everywhere." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 20.11.07, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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Re: Extracts from the Sakar Murlis published by BKs

Post01 Mar 2008

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"शिवबाबा तो विचार सागर मंथन नहीं करते। यह ब्रह्मा विचार सागर मंथन कर समझाते हैं कि यह जो जैनी लोग हैं उनका यह देलवाड़ा मंदिर है। यह जो चैतन्य होकर गये हैं उनका ही जड़ यादगार है। आदि देव आदि देवी भी बैठे हैं। ऊपर में स्वर्ग है। अब अगर जो उन्हों के भगत हैं उन्हों को ग्यान मिले तो अच्छी तरह समझ सकते हैं कि बरोबर नीचे राजयोग की शिक्षा ले रहे हैं।...तुम्हारी मम्मा किसको समझाती थी तो उनको तीर लग जाता था। उनमें सच्चाई पवित्रता थी। थी भी कुमारी। मम्मा का नाम पहले आता है। पहले लक्ष्मी फिर नारायण।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक २१.११.०७, पृ.१ एवं २)

"ShivBaba toh vichaar saagar manthan nahee kartey. Yah Brahma vichaar saagar manthan kar samjhaatey hain ki yah jo Jaini log hain unka yah Delwara mandir hai. Yah jo chaitanya hokar gaye hain unka hee jad yaadgaar hai. Aadi Dev Aadi Devi bhi baithey hain. Oopar may swarg hai. Ab agar jo unho ke Bhagat hain unho ko gyaan miley toh achchi tarah samajh saktey hain ki barobar neechey rajyog kee shiksha ley rahey hain…Tumhari Mama kisko samjhaatee thi toh unko teer lag jaataa tha. Unmay sachchi pavitrata thi. Thi bhi Kumari. Mama ka naam pehley aata hai. Pehley Lakshmi fir Narayan." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 21.11.07, pg 1&2)

“ShivBaba will not churn the ocean of thoughts. This Brahma churns the ocean of thoughts and explains that this Dilwara Temple is related to these Jains (followers of Jainism) It is a memorial of those who had existed in the past in living form. Aadi Dev and Aadi Devi are also sitting. There is heaven above. Well, if their devotees get The Knowledge then they can understand properly that definitely teachings of Rajyog is being obtained below…Whenever your Mama used to explain to anyone, the arrow used to hit the target (i.e. he/she used to understand). She had true purity. She was also a virgin. Mama’s name comes first. First Lakshmi and then Narayan." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 21.11.07, pg 1&2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
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